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Subject: Chinese sub may have caught fire in South China Sea: Japanese media
EW3    5/30/2005 10:06:21 PM
TOKYO : A Chinese navy submarine stalled apparently after a fire broke out aboard the vessel while it was submerged in the South China Sea, a Japanese newspaper said.

The submarine was being towed Monday above the water by a Chinese vessel towards the Yulin Naval Port on China's Hainan Island, the Yomiuri Shimbun said, citing Japanese and US defense sources.

Japanese and US authorities have been monitoring the vessel, a Ming-class diesel-powered hunter-killer submarine. It was not clear whether there were any casualties, said the top-selling newspaper.

The accident occurred Thursday in international waters about halfway between Taiwan and Hainan Island. It was not known if the submarine surfaced on its own accord.

Three or four Chinese warships were spotted around the site of the accident, and another Chinese submarine was detected, which suggests that the accident may have occurred during a military exercise, the daily said.

The Japanese and US governments believe it will not have an adverse environmental impact on the area because the submarine was not nuclear-powered, the Yomiuri said.

A spokesman at the Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Force declined to comment.

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On Watch    RE:Chinese sub may have caught fire in South China Sea: Japanese media   6/1/2005 9:07:02 AM
Sounds like #2 coolie was smokin opium in the battery well...during a charge! Or maybe the cook just burned the ricecakes again? At any rate, we hope the 'peace loving' progressive peoples submariners are all ok! Still, it's scary to think that those NQPs will be driving NukeBoats too! Let's Roll
 
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On Watch    Chinese sub: Ming Class -- 361 again?   6/1/2005 9:44:43 AM
No. 361 Date of Incident: 16 April 2003 Returned to Service: Unknown On 02 May 2003, the official Xinhua news agency of the Chinese government announced that there had been an accident aboard No. 361, a Ming-class diesel-electric attack submarine. It was reported that all 70 officers and crew were killed in the accident. The submarine was reported to taking part in a training exercise east of the Neichangshan Islands, off the northeast coast of China. Initially, no date for the incident was give, but an un-named Senior Chinese Navy official later reported the accident ocurred on 16 April, but it was only discovered 10 days later No. 361 did not report in as scheduled. The senior official also reported that the diesel engine aboard the submarine failed to shut down, using up all the oxygen in the small submarine. The entire crew was reportedly found at their posts, and there were no signs of a struggle. This would be strong evidence that the officers and crew of No. 361 died very quickly. (Note: A similiar event occured aboard the French submarine Galateé in 1970 after her collision with the South African submarine Maria van Riebeeck. Six men were killed.) The submarine was reportedly towed back to an unidentified port. An early report noted that the "remaining problems of the wreckage are now being settled with care." No. 361 would be one of the most recently built Ming-class submarines. This class is based on the Russian Romeo-class attack submarine, a 1950's design. The first Ming-class vessel was launched in 1975, with vessels being launched as recently as 1997. Commentary: The Chinese Navy, or PLAN (People's Liberation Army Navy) has reported very few submarine accidents in the past, all involving diesel-electric submarines (one of the early Ming-class submarines was reported lost after a fire and a Romeo-class submarine was reported lost in an accident in 1993-94. The crew of a Ming-class submarine is normally 55 (9 officers and 46 enlisted). The additional fifteen casualties could be observers, which might explain why the Chinese government made the accident known (it would be difficult to hide the death or disappearance of 10 or more flag officers). link Let's Roll
 
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EW3    RE:Chinese sub: Ming Class -- 361 again?   6/1/2005 10:09:05 AM
Really don't know yet. It could be a design flaw, not sure if they are good enough to fix a boat that has had a fire like they had on the 361.
 
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19790214    RE:Chinese sub: Ming Class -- 361 again?   6/5/2005 12:09:58 AM
It's a bad copy of Soviet Romeo-class sub...
 
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