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Subject: 4 man SEAL team lost- 1 recovered, 2 dead, 1 MIA
TriggaFingaz    7/6/2005 3:58:58 PM
...And the QRF Chinook sent to retrieve them was shot down, with the loss of all 16 men.

Tell me, is it wise to have just FOUR men sneaking around a place like Kunar province? I know it makes them easier to hide from the Enemy, but does it not increase the chances of being overrun?
 
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Ashley-the-man    RE:4 man SEAL team lost- 1 recovered, 2 dead, 1 MIA   7/6/2005 10:42:17 PM
"Tell me, is it wise to have just FOUR men sneaking around a place like Kunar province? I know it makes them easier to hide from the Enemy, but does it not increase the chances of being overrun? " How about loosing 16 SEALS on that Chinook? Somehow I smell one of the biggest scandals of the whole Afghanistan war about to bust out. When the 19 soldiers died in Mogadishue careers were stopped in their tracks. At least four guys on the ground could defend themselves, that is their mission. Sending them up against a superior force smacks of a major screw up of intelligence. And then bunching up 16 SEALs who are some of most highly effective weapons in the US arsenal in a helicopter where they can't defend themselves is going to cause some major fallout. This makes the intel screw up that got Casey Ryback busted look like a typographical error on an sitrep. They are going to have to look long and hard to find a cook to blame this one on.
 
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TriggaFingaz    Operation Red Wing   7/10/2005 9:34:08 AM
There is speculation in The Sunday Times (UK) today that the SEAL team that was compromised and forced to evade may have been on the trail of a HVT (High Value Target)- perhaps Osama or Mullah Omar??? Folks have commented that a four man SOF team is unusual, that such small numbers are optimsed for stealthy fixing of elusive targets. Unlike the large battalion size sweeps launched by Afghan and US Army regular forces, the SEALs were meant to observe and avoid detection, since they would be grossly overmatched. Does anyone think they were really on the trail to B**** Laden? Whatever their mission is, it has confirmed that Kunar is THICK with AQT vermin. 8 SEALs and 8 MH-47 Army crews have been lost looking for them; let's hope that some payback is due to avenge their deaths.
 
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CJH    RE:Operation Red Wing   7/10/2005 7:50:48 PM
What I have been wondering over is how can Kunar Province be a reputed home for Taliban and we haven't at least put it under siege. Can't we establish firebases there and then set on the bad guys when they try to take them on?
 
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EW3    RE:Operation Red Wing   7/10/2005 8:21:24 PM
Folks have commented that a four man SOF team is unusual, that such small numbers are optimsed for stealthy fixing of elusive targets. Not for SEALs. Solo operations were not that unusual in VN. Some very far behind enemy lines, say in Hanoi or Haiphong. These guys were probably doing recon as suggested in the UK papers. Gathering intel is one of the jobs the SEALs are very good at but does not get a lot of publicity.
 
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WinsettZ    RE:Operation Red Wing   7/10/2005 11:20:40 PM
link All personnel accounted for. Three KIA. RIP guys.
 
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