Oh and btw JIM-LR is not NATO compliant as it misses a military hardened GPS chip. O know, it is stupid, you can start yur french bashing ;)

 

At least it works reasonably well.

 

Stepped in it again, Holloweene

 

Now stay on topic.

 

Hamilcar.

@ gf just btw an inner inquiry in swiss armed forces has also been started. What doese it evoke you?

@hamilcar i'm sorry, but u brought the point about rover implementation on damocles. French troops are ok to use it (and pay for it) aswell as us troop use prc 148 (from thales), and french troops use prc 152 from us. And everyone is fine with those mix of country origins.(these are radios btw).

You are right lest back to topic aka its first pages where u flamed europe and especially french marine /AdlA rafale performance, and the fail Nato war guidance there. So if we go back to original failures that airforce would  etc. etc. Whats your opinion now?

You are right lest back to topic aka its first pages where u flamed europe and especially french marine /AdlA rafale performance, and the fail Nato war guidance there. So if we go back to original failures that airforce would  etc. etc. Whats your opinion now?

I brought up Rover as an example of HOW the French leverage and abuse their so called industrial partners, Holloweene, with respect to Damocles and the RAFALE. Its French national industrial policy deliberately  to hunt out suckers er 'partners' to make their second tier tech base competitive with Russian, German, British, and American indigenous efforts through THEFT, and save money on development costs of systems either beryond their expertise or too expensive for them to produce themselves.. Particularly in the matters of foreign military sales, the French CANNOT be trusted with ANY shared advanced 'allied' tech. They cannot even see to their own security interests when they sell their OWN advanced tech to pariah states and enemy nations. Not that other nations are not guilty, (Britain and Germany with Typhoons to Saudi Arabia for example), but at least when the US sells an item to a future potential enemy state, such as Egypt, (Like Russia does to the PRCs), the item is de-rated (the Egyptian M-1 tank does not have Burlington armor packages). The French item usually either doesn't work (aircraft), is too French specific with strings attached (aviation weapons that are scarce expensive and usually do not work), or if its one of their excellent submarines, artillery pieces, or ballistic missiles, it winds up in the hands of war mongering idiots (Pakistan) as something the US has to worry about fighting as an ENEMY weapon system.

 

So yes when I cited Rover, it is ON POINT.

 

H.

 

Yawn's comments about ops at high altitude seem funny to me?

The Rafale has fixed inlets. Regardless of the published figures, it's engines will always be less efficient than any plane with variable inlets. (Except at the design point!) The inside diameter of the engine bay means that planes like the F-15-16-18 will always be upgradable to more powerful engines than are, or will be available for Rafale. But engine power is the least important factor in why no one has bought it. The claimed stealthy features are simply not there and everyone who works ATC any place they have ever flown knows it! The second even larger problem is range, or more precisely radius of action which must be traded for war load. This is not a bad thing, it is just one of the results of the choice they made to go with the canard delta configuration and only five heavy/wet hard points.

The Rafale has fixed inlets. Regardless of the published figures, it's engines will always be less efficient than any plane with variable inlets. (Except at the design point!) The inside diameter of the engine bay means that planes like the F-15-16-18 will always be upgradable to more powerful engines than are, or will be available for Rafale. But engine power is the least important factor in why no one has bought it. The claimed stealthy features are simply not there and everyone who works ATC any place they have ever flown knows it! The second even larger problem is range, or more precisely radius of action which must be traded for war load. This is not a bad thing, it is just one of the results of the choice they made to go with the canard delta configuration and only five heavy/wet hard points.

The M-88, while a troubled engine, has been improved. Its main limiting factor is its core operating temperature.

 

 H.

@H.

 

Think you should go to Miramar ask the instructors using M2k what they think about the plane they are using as agressors...Yes you can check, USA bought some M2k ( i think its four)