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Subject: F-35 news thread III
jessmo_24    1/12/2011 7:23:24 AM
BF-2s 1st vertical landing. *ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS3ngl1GcaI&feature=player_embedded NAVAIRSYSCOM 10 Jan 2011 "F-35B test aircraft BF-2 accomplishes its first vertical landing and conversion back to normal flight mode at Naval Air Station Patuxent River, Maryland. The integrated test team is testing both the STOVL and carrier variants of the F-35 for delivery to the fleet. Video courtesy Lockheed Martin."
 
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keffler25       4/27/2015 1:48:37 PM
This is what I mean by you not knowing Jack diddly. The F-15 was NOT adapted to replace the F-111. The F-111 has no niche mission replacement at all currently. The 'bomb Eagle' was an adaptation of the air superiority fighter for tactical air to replace the Thunderchief  and the Phantom II in the interdiction roles.   
I am sorry, the F-15 was adapted to replace the F-111 in interdiction. Not the F-35.

 
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HR    keffler does not miss a chance...   4/27/2015 3:28:49 PM
to show how little he knows or how quick he can jump to the wrong conclusion. "The F-111 has been replaced in USAF service by the F-15E Strike Eagle". //// http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Dynamics_F-111_Aardvark
 
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keffler25       4/27/2015 3:49:46 PM
You idiot... the progression was Canberra, Thunderchief, Phantom II (with refueling) F-111 and then nothing. The FB (emphasis on the 'B") - 111 was intended to reach Moscow from  bases in Germany and the UK, (something that the F-15D cannot do. even with refueling) with STRATEGIC nuclear weapons (B-63s).. F-111 loaded combat radius 2000 kilometers with drop tanks. F-15E combat radius about 1300 km.  
 
Just a brief glance at bomb loads, flight profiles and combat radius would tell you that much.  
 
Plus there were dedicated EF-111's assigned to the SAC and TAC formations that used the FB-111 for EW escort and post strike recon. Where is the Eagle variant that does that? Hint: there isn't one.  
And then you have the effrontery to cite Wiki like that proves something.
 
It proves something all right. It proves that you are a know nothing.  
 
 
 
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keffler25       4/27/2015 4:00:14 PM
USAF F-111 variants were retired in the 1990s, with the F-111Fs in 1996 and EF-111s in 1998. The F-111 has been replaced in USAF service by the F-15E Strike Eagle for medium-range precision strike missions, while the supersonic bomber role has been assumed by the B-1B Lancer. The RAAF was the last operator of the F-111, with its aircraft serving until December 2010.
 
You were very careful not to give the complete accurate quote and the context weren't you, you disreputable no good liar. 
 
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HR    keffler   4/27/2015 4:05:39 PM
Like in the past we will see (but not read) 100 posts by Keffler trying to repair that huge blunder of his... I used to call them bestialities. All the while he will be calling names and adding more crazy stuff. The exit of the F-111 left the USA with out a medium bomber... the F-15's air frame that had originally been optimized for air-to-air combat was modified (made heavier) to stand the rigor of attack missions and that is how the F-15 strike eagle was bought by South Korea as well as by us. /// keffler, notice that I have not called you any names... your statements ALWAYS stand on their own... a show of poor judgment. //// There are some topics that you discuss that I do not know well but I have no doubt those are also rife with errors like this one.
 
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keffler25       4/27/2015 4:09:14 PM
Lol at the troll. Whose trying to damage control here when his dishonesty is shone in black and white? You are, you LIAR.  
 
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HR    keffler   4/27/2015 4:13:09 PM
Here... another quote that I am sure you will cherish in your scrap book... "In March 1981, the USAF announced the Enhanced Tactical Fighter (ETF) program to procure a replacement for the F-111. The program was later renamed the Dual-Role Fighter (DRF) competition. The concept envisioned an aircraft capable of launching deep air interdiction missions without requiring additional support by fighter escort or jamming.[13] General Dynamics submitted the F-16XL, while McDonnell Douglas submitted the F-15E."
 
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HR    keffler   4/27/2015 4:17:33 PM
And that is exactly what I said. But in you lobotomy-tin-can of your data-full mind you can't put together the thoughts that indeed the F-15E was conceived as a strike aircraft to replace the F-111. You just jumped at it with your typical insults and crazy ape-talk (apologies to the apes).
 
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JFKY    HR & Keffler   4/27/2015 4:29:27 PM
Let's be gentle & not ruin THIS thread with personal attacks...
 
This is a SEMANTIC debate...keffler is TECHNICALLY correct, that the F-15 was not DESIGNED to replace the F-111...
 
HR makes the point that the F-15E did supplement & then supplant the F-111 in that role.
 
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HR    JFKY   4/27/2015 4:35:27 PM
nope... Keffler is dead wrong. I said that the F-15 was "adapted" to replace the F-111. And that is perfectly accurate. Then Keffler jumped into it with his insults not realizing that it was him who was bungling the topic.
 
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