"F35 Trap"

 

 

BW, whether or not you believe wholeheartedly in your own opinions you should accept that generally speaking educated consensus is against you here - there's many amateurs talking about the shortcomings of the F35 even though it is an absolute fact that very few of its "stats" are in the public domain, and the ones that are are those that have been the same since the beginning of the awarding of the contract to LM. 

 

The F35 is going to open up a new dimension (a new era) in air warfare - the first widely produced stealthy strike aircraft, which is in every sense designed to counter the.. vintage viewpoint of A2A/A2G aircraft as being highly manauverable agile birds who win dogfights with amazing agility and superb pilotage - in fact, the F35 is designed to fight in an entirely different way, utilizing sensor fusion, stealth, and the most advanced EW suite ever developed. It's a new era, the rafale is a "never was", a plane that enthusiasts will talk about in future as being fantastic even though it will likely never actually see combat or be produced in quantity or even be exported to a 3rd world country worthy of consideration, the F35's capabilities are ABSOLUTELY unknown to you, you have absolutely no source, no "friend" no access whatsoever other than a fanboy understanding in order to quantify its performance.

 

And I state this here knowing that search engines will pick this page up long after both I, and the F35 are old news -it's a revolution in air-warfare, possibly the last major manned fighter program (though I say that with skepticism) but in every way you quantify the factors that determine how a2a engagements pan out, it is an entire generation ahead of the rafale. 

 

There is no F35 trap, it's currently exceeded EVERY single performance guideline that it has been given (even the malreported FCS rubbish that made SP a while back) which is why every major "allied" airforce will adopt it sooner or later, Japan included.

 

There is NOTHING in the sky except an F22 that has the upper hand vs the F35, and nothing for the forseeable future.

 never ceases to amaze me how people will get excited over the F-22 but seem to think that the manufacturer didn't pick up any lessons learned when they designed the JSF.

 

ironically, despite the fact that its systems have none of the design problems of the F-22, that it was designed for a different role, and yet gets compared as much as possible when it suits.

 

at a through life support level the JSF is already miles ahead of the F-22, and yet we have all these groans and moans because the aircraft is somehow deficient.  its had far more systems testing done on mules and simmed than any other modern aircraft and yet we see people who are still wedded to the same design scenarios that NG moved away from with the Virginias (after learning from the Seawolfs) and with LM who learned pretty damn quickly what not to repeat from the F-22

 

aparently they were competent enough to make the F-22 but technically asleep at the wheel when building a later iteration of various tech in the F-22 into a plane that already has more partners invested in it than any other non US platform.  The only one that gets close is the Tiffy

 

go figure

Be grateful the Boeing JSF entry lost.. the whining would be be even worse..

""The F35 is going to open up a new dimension (a new era) in air warfare""

 

No . The F-35 is the continuation of a stealth approach .

I buy a B-2 over a F-35 anyday . My "F-35 folder" is rather big and I know my bit about the Jet . I tell you what get 's me "wet" , the DASS and that 's it . The rest of the aircraft ~on paper~ is medium to good with the radar being excellent .

The F-35 is not opening or going to open anything .

 

 

 

""WE'RE BETTER THAN YOU! WE ARE! BELIEVE US!""

 

My response : in some ways , yes . But I am not talking technology here ...

 

""France is a wonderful country with a great deal of smart people...just like a lot of other countries, including the US.""

Well, I guess a smile is good for the soul, BW.  When I see you and FS frantically waving the tricolor screaming "WE'RE BETTER THAN YOU! WE ARE! BELIEVE US!" it just makes me groan and reach for the ibuprofen.

 

France is a wonderful country with a great deal of smart people...just like a lot of other countries, including the US.  The difference is, we don't whine about it when the rest of the world doesn't dance to our tune.  (Well, usually.)  The French on the other hand, just can't seem to get over Waterloo...