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StevoJH 11/27/2009 10:14:18 AM

Just thinking about it, I wonder how many posts bluewings or slowman would get in at WAB or DT before getting banned for trolling....

Jack, do you think he'd fit in with the Fanboi's at Key Publishings?

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jackjack 11/27/2009 11:02:20 AM

what makes you think he isnt there, he has been banned more times than the movie deep throat

sampaix and his many names, one of his latest names there has just been banned for a month, Dare2

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Bluewings12 11/27/2009 12:32:24 PM

gf , you understood wrongly what I meant . When I said to you that you were pathetic and blind , I was of course refering to my last F-35 post .

For the N'th time , stop shooting at the messenger . I am not Mr Schreiber and I have nothing to do with the F-35 program , furthermore , I only copy pasted an article from the Daily Mail .

-1) You are pathetic because as soon as someone say something bad about your next toy (Oz F-35) , you go pear shape and you start flaming , you also throw the gauntlet far too easy . I am not looking for a fight and I don 't give a monkey about what you posted the past 6 years . I read what you post and that 's it .

-2) You are blind at the USA trap , like every other F-35 customer .

88 , the "kid" is 46 years old and could teach you a trick or two . Stevo and jack-jack , forget the popcorn , thre 's not gonna be any fight .

Oh and by the way , I have nothing to do with sampaix . I know the poster from AirDefense and that 's it .

Cheers .

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sentinel28a 11/27/2009 2:19:12 PM

If Australia had decided to buy the Rafale, BW would be needing a cigarette about now. But since it's the F-35 (which we know was invented merely as a plot to keep countries from buying the Rafale), it must be crap, and the Aussies are stupid and blind.

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Bluewings12 11/27/2009 3:12:40 PM

sentinel , it has nothing to do with the Rafale . I didn 't talk about it .

""But since it's the F-35 (which we know was invented merely as a plot to keep countries from buying the Rafale)""

The F-35 project has been made mostly to secure the US aviation industry and entangle the Europeans aviation industries .

It is a fact that no one with a bit of common sense would dispute . You Americans should be proud of such a move .

Unfortunatly , the F-35 program is not doing well at all .

If you forget the technological "gizmos" for 2 minutes , you 'll find that politicaly it is close to be a "fiasco" , money wise it is also spiralling sky high . Then , the program is at least 1 year late already and less than 30% of the flight tests have been completed and with some (unforseen) problems , mostly sorted by now .

Then , the tech transfert is poor to crap and the maintenance and update capabilities (and facilities) are dayligh robbery .

Sure , feel free to tell me that the F-35 program is "slice bread" for its poooor customers .

*Sarcarstic mode on* :

Some could say that 400+ Rafale F4s will fly worldwide when the 1st gen F-35 will finaly enter service .

*Sarcastic mode off*

Cheers .

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warpig 11/27/2009 3:34:13 PM

*Sarcarstic mode on* :

Some could say that 400+ Rafale F4s will fly worldwide when the 1st gen F-35 will finaly enter service .

*Sarcastic mode off*

Well, then France has about three more years in which to build about 300 more Rafale. That would only require Dassault to increase its current production rate by about, oh, maybe 600%. No problem.

But some "could" say that.

Usually, for sarcasm to be effective it needs to actually be believable... and also not to actually be the basis for sarcastic comments in return.

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gf0012-aust 11/27/2009 4:08:04 PM

gf , you understood wrongly what I meant . When I said to you that you were pathetic and blind , I was of course refering to my last F-35 post .

my reaction is to your stellar inability to understand technology sets, misrepresent technology sets when it suits and your enthusiasm in quoting articles which are easily refuted. In case you haven't worked it out yet, there are any number of technical articles that don't involve france and/or rafale where I will correct the claims and post why. ie give citations. do you want me to start listing those as evidence of my egalitarianism?

For the N'th time , stop shooting at the messenger . I am not Mr Schreiber and I have nothing to do with the F-35 program , furthermore , I only copy pasted an article from the Daily Mail .

CREF above. CREF all the other times when you make claims about radar, RCS management, dispute citations from engineers and pilots, dispute clinical publicly available data - and yet you argument is now based on quoting the daily mail (as a reference point that like quoting pravda in parliament) anyone with half a brain would double check any comment from the daily mail, pravda, tyhe guardian, debka etc... its not rocket science because everyone knows that those broadsheets have visible political slant and are technically as accurate as a 5 year olds description of a moon landing.

selective whining at work again. You can criticise the JSF as much as you like when you get the facts right. My criticism of you (again) is because you either deliberately distort or misunderstand technology sets and then proudly loft them into the air as fact. again, do you want me to start listing all your old and bold claims that have been refuted to date? if you didn't pretend I wouldn't care. If you were cautious and were willing to learn - I wouldn't care. If you actually had the basis of a sensible debate in your intent, then I wouldn't care. Unfort over the last 6 years you have turned into a troll. the problem with trolls is that they pretend to be knowledgeable but invariably don't understand the difference between an ice pick and a truck

-2) You are blind at the USA trap , like every other F-35 customer .

let me see. so you have better knowledge about air combat requirements than some of the people who have been in aerial combat, who are aviation engineers, who have in excess of 6000 hrs on type, who have flown numerous disparate combat aircraft, who have actually worked on military procurement, who have actually worked on military development, who have actually worked on military projects?

if any of the JSF cohort were looking at Rafale you'd be dnacing a jig on how professional they were etc... Its a hollow claim with even a golden mile of generosity applied to your intent.

eg in a weapons system assessment there would be well over 5000 lines of actual individual criteria that are individually as well as sympathetically assessed against specific requirements, and yet 9 countries have made determinations via their own assessment teams comprising pilots, engineers, loggies, scientists, integrators, force planners, doctrine vectors etc that the plane meets requirements. ie a plane where the assessment criteria would come to pallet loads (simple example for you to digest) of validation and verification material.

You obviously have never been involved in any weapons system or

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sentinel28a 11/30/2009 3:01:14 PM

You didn't have to mention the Rafale, BW--because when it comes to this board, it's never far from your mind. Given your past history--about seven years' worth--of proclaiming the Rafale to the Best Fighter Evar, I'm pretty sure that's what you were driving at.

A) The F-35 sucks.

B) The Rafale is awesome.

C) The Rafale's lack of sales have nothing to do with any shortcoming the aircraft actually has (because it's perfect), but is actually an American plot to make everyone buy Lockheed Martin or Boeing forevermore.

Therefore: A+B+C=D: Australia should quit drinking the American kool-aid and buy Rafales, like all sensible and freedom-loving peoples of the world.

I'm thinking this is exactly what you were thinking when you wrote that post. I could be wrong, naturally--maybe you were thinking of the cuisine in Nice, or the 6% grade on your next run, but again, given your past history, a squawk of "Why hasn't the RAAF bought the Rafale? WHY?!" was likely next.

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RedParadize 12/3/2009 8:45:39 PM

Indeed, it work make sense that the RAM is customized for local climes. Seems to be a major advancement if the RAM is resistant to moisture and other adverse conditions. This also explains why running sheep don't register on radar speedguns.

Enough bad jokes from me...

Somebody knows his thermodynamics.

Humm, if RAM is affected that much by climate, thats would mean it could not operate at sea level and hight altitude without customization isn't it?

I am not an engineer but if its true i would simply optimize the RAM for high altitude cause temperature and humidity is pretty much the same everywhere in the world hat that level, and thats where you really want your F-22 anyway.

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Hamilcar 12/4/2009 2:06:37 AM

Enough bad jokes from me...

Somebody knows his thermodynamics.

Humm, if RAM is affected that much by climate, thats would mean it could not operate at sea level and hight altitude without customization isn't it?

Wrong, and that is all I'm going to say.

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