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Rufus

Even the famous pro Eurofighter biased study from British DERA (with underestimates on mica or Rafale performance) put Rafale F3 with PESA above F18 and SU35).

Now we offer Rafale F3+AESA.

Game over on performance vs F18E.

F18E will be similar to Rafale only on radar and combat autonomy and inferior for rest.

Our offer to brasil is much more expensive than US one but we offer opportunity to Brasil to become a nation free on pressure from major weapons suppliers.

Of course a part of brasilian army is not in favor of Rafale since Brasilian military will have to pay price difference on their budget (so less for the rest).

But if Brasil want to be a major diplomatic player in the world with an autonomous defense, they have no choice unless US make a better offer and respect it.

 

Now Rufus I offered to some US SP members to meet them when I was in USA months ago to prove them who I'am.You would have been clearly surprised.You are clearly uninformed.

 

It is false Bluewing

We offer Brasil to coproduce the Rafale including on some high tech components according to number they buy, and likely full access to drawing and software except some very specific secrets.

However it is obvious that code would be modified with them in order to not give away some France specific features likley on ECM and ECCM.I don't know any nation in world which give all the same source code for export for such systems.

It is a strategic partnership which will remove US dependance of Brasil.

Likely we will make such an offer to India

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According to AFP, Brazilian president received a letter signed by Sarkozy guaranteeing unrestricted tech transfer, and this was the final nail that closed the deal.

 

The US countered by announcing that US would transfer technology necessary for local production of Super Hornet, meaning just airframe fabrication and assembly tech and not AESA radar or avionics.

 

FS, Brazil doesn't depend on the US for hardly anything in its armed forces.  Most of its Army equipment is either home-grown or French; most of its naval equipment is European, and only a third of the air force uses American equipment (the C-130, KC-707 conversions, and F-5s)--everything else is either French or made by EMBRAER.  The Rafale will likely replace the F-5, since the Mirage III was already replaced by the Mirage 2000.

 

And as usual, Bluewings, you can stop the mental masturbation over the Rafale anytime.  Can the F3 lase its own bombs?  Because earlier Rafales couldn't.  The Super Hornet could from the moment it rolled out of the factory.  With suitable improvement, the Rafale would be the equal of a Super Bug, but not as it sits now and certainly not as it was rolled out.

 

Good heavens, French guys! Your pet aircraft finally got a good contract!  Be happy with that.

"FS, Brazil doesn't depend on the US for hardly anything in its armed forces.  Most of its Army equipment is either home-grown or French; most of its naval equipment is European, and only a third of the air force uses American equipment (the C-130, KC-707 conversions, and F-5s)--everything else is either French or made by EMBRAER.  The Rafale will likely replace the F-5, since the Mirage III was already replaced by the Mirage 2000."

 

 

Something one would think a self proclaimed expert would already know...

 

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