Rafale F3 leading Brazilian F-X race on the promise of extensive tech transfer over Super Hornet

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cwDeici 9/17/2009 11:16:09 PM

These are facts about the tech transfer of the Rafale and other technologies, regardless I remember clearly how you didn't know that a laser-pointer had been slapped on (you were saying that it would be), and after the other poster informed you, you merrily went on to frame it as now 'integrated with the Rafale airframe'.

It's painfully obvious you're an amateur pretending to be involved with those nifty jetfighters, and your constant dirty talk about girlfriends and countries indicates you may have a severe inferiority complex about both as well.

Sadly though, your fanatic obsession has not converted into any limited layman's knowledge of the subjects, or even basic common sense.

... so yeah, correction made... back to ignoring posters that detract from every discussion (for the good of SP)...

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cwDeici 9/17/2009 11:20:18 PM

I think I can sum up this thread:

Me: "I think the Rafale's a great airplane, and it'll become greater once the bugs are worked out, which will likely be soon. Good for Brazil."

Bluewings: "WHAT? The Rafale is great NOW! It's the greatest airplane ever because it is FRENCH! It can tear apart everything that flies, turn invisible, and fly up its own asshole because it...it CAN!"

Assorted Other Posters: "The Rafale's okay, but it's not as combat proven or as good as the Super Hornet."

Bluewings: "AMERICAN PROPAGANDA! The Super Hornet SUCKS! It's not FRENCH!"

Rufus: "Here's a list, well supported by evidence, why the Super Hornet right now is a better aircraft than the Rafale."

Bluewings: "LA LA LA I'M NOT LISTENING AMERICAN PROPAGANDA!" *begins singing the Marseillaise*

I'm being childish, I admit, but I'm dealing with a childish person here...

You're not being childish, but I doubt you're right about the Rafale being a great airplane. It's a vastly overpriced fighter-bomber (bomb truck) without the necessary assortments required to bat in the upgraded 4'th Generation League.

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cwDeici 9/17/2009 11:29:04 PM

"First , it is up to him to look down on French AESA technology . French tech on Radar have always been very good and we can design a new radar extremely well at the first try as we did many times before ."

The fact is that AESA radars are extremely challenging to build and this is France's first attempt. The AESA being developed for the Rafale does not even attempt to do what the most modern US AESAs do. It is an upgrade to an older back-end, not unlike the first AESA's the US put in some of its F-15s.

"The AESA RBE2 has nothing to be ashamed of compare to the APG-79 . It might have a slightly lower range (30km less) but its fonctions and integration is as good ."

The AESA RBE-2 is nothing to be ashamed of but it absolutely does not include the "fonctions" of the APG-79. (and its range is a heck of a lot more than "slightly" less.) The APG-79 is a larger, more sophisticated, and far more powerful radar than that which the Rafale may eventually receive in another few years.

"Unlike what Rufus is saying , the MMICs are of the same generation and I might even say that the inert material (non-conductive) of the European MMICs is better , I let you look into it by yourselves ."

LOL, thanks truck driver. As usual your opinion on matters of technology is completely useless, but nonetheless amusing. France has had continual problems obtaining suitable MMICs since the beginning of its development effort when it was forced to use US MMICs to construct its first functioning prototypes. While France can now obtain acceptable MMICs these are still not comparable to those going into the latest US radars.

To top it all off, the APG-79 is operational TODAY while the Rafale is as always waiting for an upcoming feature...

""Not only that, but the SH's AESA is capable of EW and communications functions that the Rafale's AESA will not have.""

Completly untrue as I speak . Some work has been done on the F-22/F-35 's radars but that ' s it . The technology can probably be implemented on the -79 but nothing has been done .

As usual bluewings your ignorance is simply embarrassing. What compels you to try to talk about things you clearly know nothing about is a mystery to me...

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The newest version of the Boeing Super Hornet, equipped with an advanced, Raytheon-built APG-79 active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, can spot small targets--even stealthy cruise missiles--at ranges great enough to allow an effective defense. Navy officials are loath to talk with any detail about the metrics of electronic attacks and admit only to "extremely significant tactical ranges" for EA effects against air-to-air and surface-to-air radars, Gaddis says. However, other Pentagon and aerospace industry officials say that while air-to-air missiles are struggling to reach the 60-100-mi.-ra

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cwDeici 9/18/2009 12:04:31 AM

Gentlemen , many French posters left SP because of your very attitude : you are biaised to the highest imaginable degree .

- This is possible, it happens in the real world. However it is more likely that it is simply you who are biased.

Myself , I stay here because your posts are just a pity and it is so easy to make fun of it.

- It's the other way around.

Rufus , your post is the usual internet US fan bla-bla . I post numbers , studies and pictures , you , you talk .

- What you post is a human tragedy of broken dreams.

Fortunatly , most good posters here on SP don 't get involved because they have better things to do than bash what many wordwide airforce professionals see as the most efficient 4.5 generation fighter-striker .

- Name them. Worldwide airforce professionals think of the Rafale as a decent airframe, but a complete laggard on an errant research bent.

- And you KNOW posters here on SP don't get involved with you because we all think you're an idiot, and no longer feel sorry for you.

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cwDeici 9/18/2009 12:14:25 AM

OK, I've sent in a petition to have Bluewings removed from the forum for aggravated trolling (flames, unsubstantiated statements and outright falsities reducing the quality of the board for subsequent years). Regardless of whether you find him entertaining or not I encourage you to a great degree to join this measure.

I was actually starting to see reasonable conversations about the Rafale and other topics on French matters until he reappeared.

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cwDeici 9/18/2009 12:25:31 AM

If what you want is to feel better and to think that anyone who disagrees with you is biased then stick to your nationalistic board where dissenters get mobbed no doubt on the basis of their opinion rather than their conduct of argument. The sad thing here is that you will spend the rest of your life in a delusion, but you were on that path anyway when you retreated from SP for a time to nurse your wounded feelings and arguments.

As to whether there are entire forums of retards on the internet? Yes. There are plenty, including people who like you will post evidence that the Earth is flat.

Whether it is your forum or SP (with all its flaws, but I still like her) which is in error, this can only be assessed by what is actually true.

I'm sure your board constantly throws around unsubstantiated statements that are beloved for their nature, unlike this board where the academic environment is cutthroat, even among those of the SAME FACTION. See? You run things by faction in your mind, that is one of the many reasons you fail.

We will boot you out. I will make sure of it. Leave us alone or be thrown out, because as you've finally seem to have understood we all think you are les miserables (despite your delusional comment that many of us are 'good posters' who agree... you know that anyone who disagrees about the Rafale is a bad poster and also that only French Stratege and a few others agree).

We know you are a sad loser, a truck driver or something sitting in front of your computer and trolling a forum that you're attracted to due to competitive arguments. But you don't cut it, and your behavior is awful, so we're chucking you out.

You can play kiss-ass with your national comrades and the odd foreigner on your board that agrees the Rafale is a great plane. I am sure there are no dissenting voices there... only 'fabulous' 'great' and 'supreme'.

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sentinel28a 9/18/2009 12:48:27 AM

Whether it's accurate or not makes no difference. It's how business works.

No, that's how AMERICAN business (lack of) ethics works along with bribery and corruption.

Right. We Americans invented bribery and corruption, along with a lack of business ethics. Everything was just fine until those assholes we refer to as the Founding Fathers decided to declare independence from the sweet, loving, caring genius of George III. And in the process we bankrupted France! BRILLANT!

I bet we invented Black Plague and caused the fall of the Roman Empire, too. I wish I was European, so I could blame everything on someone else.

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cwDeici 9/18/2009 1:14:00 AM

Whether it's accurate or not makes no difference. It's how business works.

No, that's how AMERICAN business (lack of) ethics works along with bribery and corruption.

I bet we invented Black Plague and caused the fall of the Roman Empire, too. I wish I was European, so I could blame everything on someone else.

Hey the Muslims are worse. And you're pretty much dealing with a Frenchman here, they're twice as bad.

I'm half Norwegian and it's true, Europe has entered its decadent phase.

PS. Bluewings has been derailings threads for years too.

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cwDeici 9/18/2009 1:15:06 AM

Norway isn't so bad though (comparatively). But yeah France is bad, even for Europe.

America has about 50-60 percent European-minded people though. ugh

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Das Kardinal 9/18/2009 2:08:33 AM

Wow, cwDeici sure loves to use personal and ad hominem attacks, doesn't he ? And as usual he spouts a dozen separates messages clogging an entire forum page to do it.

My, my, look at a mirror. Maybe BW's a truck driver. So what. Are you implying that driving a truck is something one should be ashamed of ? Or that one shouldn't post if his job isn't directly involved in the related industry/service ? Why, that's going to leave the boards pretty much deserted won't it ?

And you, cwDeici, you're the most childish-sounding poster here. You want BW banned because you can't stand him talking about his preferred plane (which you seem to hate with a passion, BTW) ? Gee. I guess everyone not wholeheartedly agreeing with you should be banned too ?

BW and FS can be exhasperating sometimes, even to me (I'm not hiding the fact that I like the Rafale, but when I see thread names like "Rafale and F22, let's compare !" I know it's going to be ugly). I take everthing they write with a huge grain of salt. But sometimes, sometimes they write things that make sense, or post relevant information, just like others.

You, on the other hand, are not contributing anything else than your express anti-French bias (as you did again in your latest post) and unsubstantiated drivel against the Rafale. Other critics like Herald or Rufus at least have a modicum of argumentation. You don't. Your posts can be summarized as "Me hate France, me hate Rafale, me hate anyone rench or arguing in favor of Rafale, me want them banned !"

Fact is, you're behaving like a spoiled teenager doing an Internet Tough Guy routine.

Grow up, get a life.

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