Got it? Just because I am a little slow, doesn't mean I am that slow, Slowman. 

 

Ask questions. Please don't try to provide answers when you don't know, and you were not asked.  I asked someone else.

 

@ Hamilcar



> Got it?



Not really. KFX process is actually similar to Collins class submarine project that gf0012 had experience with, that this is a weapons development project customized to suit the client's needs and not a procurement of an existing weapons product.



Accordingly, normal weapons procurement process doesn't apply to it.

You don't know the first thing about Collins, and you certainly don't know the first thing about KFX here. Please don't  pretend with me that you do. If normal weapons procurement process does not apply; then you will have a procurement disaster.

 

There is a joke here that you do not even understand, Slowman, in that statement. Bet you GF does. (Kockums Kockup, Upholder Upsydaisy, DDX debacle. PEOed again.)

 

 

 

@ Hamilcar



> But do I read that as subcontractor technology aid feasibility requests by the KDI for a national program?



These fighter venders were given the minimum-spec requirement draft and were asked how much it would cost to develop a brand new fighter at that spec. Lockheed Martin is said to have quoted $12 billion, EADS $10 billion(Modified Typhoon was $6 billion).



KDI study is considered flawed because it cut ans pasted Lockheed Martin's procurement cost analysis comparison and didn't account for cost savings from 30-year maintenance and service cycle, as locally sourced product is always much cheaper to service than imported product, more so with F-35 generation. The 2009 study puts the value of this savings at $9 billion for a fleet of 120(The current requirement is 250~260, so the savings can reach $20 billion) and makes it the most compelling reason for an indigenous fighter, not the procurement cost.



@ gf0012-aust



> The RFI can then precede the RFT.  (assuming that the country issues an RFT in the first place) The RFT precedes the Tender submission.  The Tender is then evaluated and the article selected.  at that point its 5-10 years before it goes IOC depending on the complexity and conditions of production and contract.

@ Hamilcar



> But do I read that as subcontractor technology aid feasibility requests by the KDI for a national program?



These fighter venders were given the minimum-spec requirement draft and were asked how much it would cost to develop a brand new fighter at that spec. Lockheed Martin is said to have quoted $12 billion, EADS $10 billion(Modified Typhoon was $6 billion).



KDI study is considered flawed because it cut ans pasted Lockheed Martin's procurement cost analysis comparison and didn't account for cost savings from 30-year maintenance and service cycle, as locally sourced product is always much cheaper to service than imported product, more so with F-35 generation. The 2009 study puts the value of this savings at $9 billion for a fleet of 120(The current requirement is 250~260, so the savings can reach $20 billion) and makes it the most compelling reason for an indigenous fighter, not the procurement cost.



@ gf0012-aust



> The RFI can then precede the RFT.  (assuming that the country issues an RFT in the first place) The RFT precedes the Tender submission.  The Tender is then evaluated and the article selected.  at that point its 5-10 years before it goes IOC depending on the complexity and conditions of production and contract.

Damn, why doesn't this page show what I've just typed in?

 

I say again, KDI did NOT copy and paste what LM or whoever else wrote up.

 

Or you can ask 'minki' here http://milidom.net/modules.php...

 

He knows a thing or two about the KFX program.

 

One more thing, President Lee, who has the final say on the KFX, hasn't made any decision yet. He may say yes or no. We'll wait and see. 

'aint that the truth... :)  

Rolls-Royce announced KFX and F/A-50 engine bid. < link >

 

The problem is, could EJ200 be upgraded to 25,000 lbs thrust to meet the minimum requirement? The ROKAF is insisting on 50,000 lbs total thrust minimum to thwart single engine designs, and current configuration is being worked on with assumption of 52,000~58,000 lbs thrust from twin F414-EDE.