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Subject: 2009 displays of the F-22 and the Rafale
Bluewings12    6/24/2009 5:03:48 PM
Let 's watch them first :-)

The F-22
h*tp://www.air-attack.com/videos/single/cAhL7lJCk4I

The Rafale :
h*tp://www.dailymotion.com/user/ministeredeladefense/video/x9ma8h_demonstration-du-rafale_news

Both aircrafts are pulling nice stuff . Rafale only does it twice faster . Explaination and details to follow .

Cheers .
 
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Herald12345    Trouble is.    9/7/2009 3:55:15 PM
Could be, he seems to have a beef with some French weapons manufacturers, but is an admirer of Ariane Space. And some remarks he makes about French management culture is backed up by what I have read in other sources.
 
There is definately something holding him back from getting from "above average" to "being top notch".
 
What you have to realize, FJV, is that sometimes I can't tell you why I know what I know. I can only point at what is in the open literature.  
 
And ues I hate the thueves at  Thales. But then Lockmart is not my favorite either.
 
Aurora started NINE years ago as a project. OPT was 2004. 
 
Herald
 
 
 
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Blue Apple       9/8/2009 2:23:24 AM
Could be, he seems to have a beef with some French weapons manufacturers, but is an admirer of Ariane Space. And some remarks he makes about French management culture is backed up by what I have read in other sources.

The old "I'm not a racist, I have some black firends defense." Sorry but it doesn't fly, there are plenty of criticism that can be levelled towards French systems without resorting to outright lies and fabrications.
 
In fact, you'll find plenty of these on French forums which IMO tends to be much more critical of their own stuff than UK or US ones (and let's not even talk about asian forums).



Aurora started NINE years ago as a project.
 
AURORA
 
Design, Develop and Qualify fuze for Paveway IV Weapon
Development contract for Fuzing System in Jan 2004
Contract cover development & production
Successful qualification in early 08 in Full Rate Preduction
[...]
 
Whatever.
 
(now, if this was a constructive discussion I'd concede that the AURORA reuses most of the preceding programs electronics but I'm really not interested in discussing UK fuze programs as they have nothing to do with the original topic).
 
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FJV       9/8/2009 4:29:28 PM
What you have to realize, FJV, is that sometimes I can't tell you why I know what I know. I can only point at what is in the open literature.  
 
I didn't reply to statements that control signals to UAVs cannot be jammed, because say a reply with a heading of "All signals can be jammed, but this is and example of what could be done to make it harder" based on what I've learned from my electronics hobby would provide free advice on how to make  improved remotely detonated IED's.
 
 
The old "I'm not a racist, I have some black firends defense." Sorry but it doesn't fly, there are plenty of criticism that can be levelled towards French systems without resorting to outright lies and fabrications. 
 
My work is making technical designs on CAD systems (Autocad, Inventor & Solidworks). This mean you have to make technical drawings and dimensioning those drawings of a machine that does not exist.

What happens when your design gets made for the first time, is that every mistake you have made will become completely obvious to everybody, no matter how stupid they are. And because your name is on the drawing everybody knows with a 100% certainty that you made the mistake. (and will point that out)
 
That means that after a few years, unless they're that 1 in a million phenomenon, you will rack up an impressive number of such mistakes. An embarrassing amount of which will be stupid. This can be very hard on your self image as a competent human being.
 
It learns you to be very careful with "what you know for sure", because in the past when "what you know for sure" meets reality, "what you know for sure" made you look like an utter and complete idiot.
 
It also means that if "what you know for sure" proves wrong, you've been already been "there" several times.
- It does not suprise you.
- You have less problems admitting to be wrong.
  (Even if only to limit the amount of time of looking stupid to an absolute minimum)
- The "Who is to blame for this mistake?" discussion interests you less nowadays.
- The "How are we going to fix this?" discussion interests you more nowadays.

I don't see signs of Herald having gone through the above "experience".
- His reluctace to admit mistaken assumptions.
- He gives the impression "to know for sure" too much.
 
However his answers also show technical competence. This indicates that Heraldat least has had some engineering classes or has an engineering degree. For some non-engineering jobs you must have an engineering degree. For instance when you want a job operating certain advanced medical machines used in surgery for instance.


 
 
 
 
 
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What you have to realize, FJV, is that sometimes I can't tell you why I know what I know. I can only point at what is in the open literature.  
 

I didn't reply to statements that control signals to UAVs cannot be jammed, because say a reply with a heading of "All signals can be jammed, but this is and example of what could be done to make it harder" based on what I've learned from my electronics hobby would provide free advice on how to make  improved remotely detonated IED's.


 

 

The old "I'm not a racist, I have some black firends defense." Sorry but it doesn't fly, there are plenty of criticism that can be levelled towards French systems without resorting to outright lies and fabrications. 


 

My work is making technical designs on CAD systems (Autocad, Inventor & Solidworks). This mean you have to make technical drawings and dimensioning those drawings of a machine that does not exist.



What happens when your design gets made for the first time, is that every mistake you have made will become completely obvious to everybody, no matter how stupid they are. And because your name is on the drawing everybody knows with a 100% certainty that you made the mistake. (and will point that out)


 

That means that after a few years, unless they're that 1 in a million phenomenon, you will rack up an impressive number of such mistakes. An embarrassing amount of which will be stupid. This can be very hard on your self image as a competent human being.


 

It learns you to be very careful with "what you know for sure", because in the past when "what you know for sure" meets reality, "what you know for sure" made you look like an utter and complete idiot.

 

It also means that if "what you know for sure" proves wrong, you've been already been "there" several times.

- It does not suprise you.

- You have less problems admitting to be wrong.

  (Even if only to limit the amount of time of looking stupid to an absolute minimum)

- The "Who is to blame for this mistake?" discussion interests you less nowadays.

- The "How are we going to fix this?" discussion interests you more nowadays.





I don't see signs of Herald having gone through the above "experience".

- His reluctace to admit mistaken assumptions.


- He gives the impression "to know for sure" too much.


 

However his answers also show technical competence. This indicates that Heraldat least has had some engineering classes or has an engineering degree. For some non-engineering jobs you must have an engineering degree. For instance when you want a job operating certain advanced medical machines used in surgery for instance.






 

 

 

 
Inventor, Solidworks, both programmes I believe to be obsolescent.
 
A Cad-Techie doth not a sigman freud ye make.
 
I get an entirely different impression. Imagine if a noob comes to you with a .stl file of a turbine assembly and suggests you convert it to a class-A parametric surface. This is an analogy, think about it. If you know what you're talking about sometimes it gets irritating to have to state what should be obvious fact to anyone who has the slightest idea what they are talking about.
 
I guess what I am saying is that I think he's legit.
 
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cwDeici       9/11/2009 10:50:03 AM
Huh, I think maybe we managed to chase him away.
 
If so, hope I don't jinx it.
 
wh00p
 
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FJV       9/11/2009 1:26:00 PM
"Inventor, Solidworks, both programmes I believe to be obsolescent.
 
A Cad-Techie doth not a sigman freud ye make."
 
Sneer 1 and sneer 2. That's a great argument you're making.
 
I get an entirely different impression. Imagine if a noob comes to you with a .stl file of a turbine assembly and suggests you convert it to a class-A parametric surface. This is an analogy, think about it. If you know what you're talking about sometimes it gets irritating to have to state what should be obvious fact to anyone who has the slightest idea what they are talking about.
 
I guess what I am saying is that I think he's legit
 
As for Heral being the real deal. Let's compare him to the real deal. Let's say someone who actually had what it takes to design some of the best aircraft in history.
Source: "http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/graham-warwick/2008/04/heinemann-his-hot-rod-and-the.html#more"
 
To me, the A-4 is the epitome of a simple, practical design. When I asked if there was anything he would change about the Skyhawk, Ed said he'd always wanted to redesign two quick and dirty fixes made during early flight testing to cure flow separation. One had been to remove the skin from one side of the rudder, the other to attach a bent-metal ?beanie cap? on top of the tailpipe. Both "temporary" fixes were part of every one the 2,960 A-4 Skyhawks built

I do not see the attitude described above in Herald.
 
What I see instead is a statement about moving a fuse in a bomb:
The bomb fuse failed to function as designed because it was in the wrong location. The US fuses are now located in the midbody on the casing strong-back. That is why I knew that BA was wrong on that contract as of this year, Warpig. The German fuses (not French) won't fit.
 
He supports with this link: "http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2002fuze/robbins.pdf" and says:
Page 31-38 inclusive
 
I look at the picture on page 31 and the FZU-48 / FZU-55  is the only thing of the fuzing system located on the casing hard back.
 
For a while I believe what Herald says and that the FZU-48 / FZU-55 is exactly that fuse that is located mid body even to the point of making a statment that this might have been done because of standing waved.
 
And the Blue Apple posts this statement. 
 
Maybe because there simply is no midway fuze (fuze as "explosive detonator") and Herald is making things up?
 
I check this statement and find this datasheet by the manufacturer of the FZU-48 and FZU-55.
"https://www.atk.com/datasheet_PDFs/FZU48B.pdf"
The FZU-48/B is an air-driven turbine alternator for use in the charging well of MK 80 and M117 series general purpose bombs.
 
This is not a fuse located midway on the hardbody of a Paveway. With this data the irrefutable evidence stares me in the face that the evidence Herald posted of a fuse located midway on hardbody of a Paveway bomb has been proven incorrect. The thing on the hardbody is not a fuze like Blue Apple's said.
 
Could a fuze be designed that is located there?, Yes.
Could an encoder fitted to the alternator be used for fuzing?, Yes.
Could a fuze be designed so that the blast pattern is optimal?, Yes.
(Just put the detonator on a "stick" so that the blast starts at the center of the bomb)
Have I seen any evidence that this is actually the case?, No, and until I do Blue Apple's statement stands as the correct one. And MY assumptions were wrong.
 
I was wrong, I made a mistake in assuming that an FZU-48 is a fuse, I admit making a mistake. 
In the article I quoted Heinemann admits to making 2 quick and dirty fixes to correct two problems that showed up during flight testing. He is telling that he should have been be paying more attention to flow seperation on the tail surface.
 
I don't see Herald doing a similar when faced with making a mistake.


 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 
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Heorot    FJV   9/11/2009 1:59:05 PM
I've said this before. I don't believe the Herald has any expertise except being a master at using Google. He make obscure statements to draw people in so that he can then freely insult then because they didn't understand his posts. This particularly applies to anyone and anything French.
 
His analysis is usually laughable and shows no understanding of the issues that he discusses. When challenged, he makes things up or puts forward strawman arguments. Finally, he refers challengers back to unsubstantiated posts of his own that have already been refuted.
 
All in all, he is a total waste of bandwidth and I hope that he has been banned again, this time permanently.
 
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FJV    Disagree   9/11/2009 2:51:58 PM
A lot of what he says checks out as correct. There is technical expertice there.
 
What I see is that when faced with a mistake, he doesn't want to admit, learn from it and move on. That annoys me, because in my opinion it holds him back from being as good as he could be. In my opinion it holds him back from being a lot more competent than me.
 
In my opinion, to become the best you can, you need to try and test a lot of ideas and assumptions. The faster you are able to ditch faulty ones, the more time you have to try more ideas. Being hesitant to admit a mistake, makes you slower in trying new stuff, makes you slower in improving.
 
Why the hell would I care if everybody thinks I'm stupid, when constantly admitting to a mistakes enables improving to the point where you are able to design technology for real that others cannot even imagine in their dreams?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Heorot       9/11/2009 3:30:15 PM
"A lot of what he says checks out as correct. There is technical expertice there."
 
That's why I call him an expert Googler. There's no dispute that he posts factual items from the internet. What's lacking is anything more than the most shallow conclusions drawn from that data.
 
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