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Subject: 2009 displays of the F-22 and the Rafale
Bluewings12    6/24/2009 5:03:48 PM
Let 's watch them first :-) The F-22 h*tp://www.air-attack.com/videos/single/cAhL7lJCk4I The Rafale : h*tp://www.dailymotion.com/user/ministeredeladefense/video/x9ma8h_demonstration-du-rafale_news Both aircrafts are pulling nice stuff . Rafale only does it twice faster . Explaination and details to follow . Cheers .
 
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usajoe1    grow up kid!   7/29/2009 7:24:12 PM

First of all, I pointed out why the Rafale is behind its competitors in some very important areas like Radar, HMS, Targeting Pod, A2A and SO wepons and is a smaller fighter with less room to grow than the Sukhoi and SH and why the Rafale still has no export sells and you totally dismissed my post and tried to change the subject. Classic BW, how about you go back and try to answer those facts I posted earlier liar!

 
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Bluewings12       7/29/2009 7:27:17 PM
You did not point out one thing right , you are not even an amateur .
Bye Joe .
 
Cheers .
 
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usajoe1    Hey Liar   7/29/2009 7:33:06 PM
Your to easy! next time don't play with the big boys kid!
 
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Bluewings12       7/29/2009 7:55:21 PM
(leaving Joe behind)
What I posted regarding the RCS differences in between the F-16 and the Rafale could also (for the most part) being compared to the SH .
The USN Fighter-Striker in its later version is the best aircraft of its class the USA have . To me , it is better than the F-15E or K .
It is a better deep strike fighter than the strike Eagle with a better FBW and Aerodynamics at low altitude . Then , its RCS is way lower than the Eagle 's . It can also land on a Carrier and its maintenance per hour is better .
A US Navy Squadron Leader even said that he wouldn 't swap his SH for a Rafale !  He is wrong but it shows how good the SH is . No Rafale Pilots would swap his Rafale for a SH , but rightly ;-)
 
Since I do like beautiful pictures , look at this one from a USN/MN joint excercise :
 
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/6782/2znsvmd.jpg" width="600" height="428" />
 
What you eyes are telling you ? 
Remember what I 've said about the F-16 shortcomings in RCS ...
Then , look at those pylons .
 
Cheers .
 
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usajoe1       7/29/2009 8:05:16 PM
(leaving Joe behind)
 
You left nobody behind LIAR! stop posting dumb pictures and stop running away and changing the subject kid!
 
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Bluewings12       7/29/2009 8:23:10 PM
The Pylons on the Rafale are very different (and only used when needed) .
Look :
 
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5623/m02008052000005.jpg" width="480" height="640" />
 
We can see that it comes in two parts , the tripod and the main pod (usual stuff found on other recent fighters) .
Notice the carefully designed angular shapes . It might not means much regarding the overall RCS but it counts .
Small details after small details , the RCS can go down and still low if you 're careful (I did not see this on the SH) .
 
Cheers . 
 
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Bluewings12       7/29/2009 8:34:42 PM
By the way , the 3 "things" are 3 AASMs (the mighty "French thing") .
 
Cheers .
 
 
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Bluewings12       7/29/2009 9:52:00 PM
Maybe we need a break :-)
 
If we have 3:30 minutes to spare , one of the best Marine Nationale video may put a smile on our faces .
It is fast and furious and if you want to see a Rafale going after another Rafale dogfight cannon only , watch it ;-)
The "bastard" is hard to follow even with another Rafale ...
 
h*tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBWdl_vybqg&hl=fr

Cheers .
 
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Wingman       7/29/2009 10:11:16 PM
@Bluewings...
 
  Where does this unch of Joe Walkers come from?
 
  They would get owned by any hardcore Anorak coming from a Red Bus sighting over here, i know 14 years old Scale model collectors who knows more about aircrafts that they do... LOL!
 
  Anyway. Good infos you posted so far, keep it up!
 
  Got an Email from the military affair Correspondant of Flight International yesterday on Rafale Display at RIAT 2009; Craig Hoile.
 
   In English dans le texte; Bravo!
 
  At least those who matters aknowlege.
 
 
 
 
 
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Wingman       7/29/2009 10:15:03 PM
@Bluewings...
 
  Where does this unch of Joe Walkers come from?
 
  They would get owned by any hardcore Anorak coming from a Red Bus sighting over here, i know 14 years old Scale model collectors who knows more about aircrafts that they do... LOL!
 
  Anyway. Good infos you posted so far, keep it up!
 
  Got an Email from the military affair Correspondant of Flight International yesterday on Rafale Display at RIAT 2009; Craig Hoile.
 
   In English dans le texte; Bravo!
 
  At least those who matters aknowlege.
 
 
 
 
 
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