2009 displays of the F-22 and the Rafale

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Herald12345 ROTFLMAO, I finally made a mistake! 7/22/2009 2:43:55 PM

Typhoon.

Rafale

A little knowledge....

The joker, BW, is finally right about one thing. That is a topside view. I had to blow it way up to see the vertical stabilizer and canopy. There is a claim floating around the internet (research here: Claim...) that the idiots at Dassault moved the exhaust port after the IRST test footage of the two jets.

Herald

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Bluewings12 7/22/2009 3:22:17 PM

I was looking for the paper but Herald was quicker :

""The picture of the Rafale could be either that of a Rafale M flown by Hives Herherve at Farnborough or the C01 previous to 1995 anyway.
This particular year, i have personaly spoken by telephone to Dassault-Aviation Rafale programe manager on the subject after emailing the photo to them, i was also involved with a non-selected Flight simulation for them.
The source of the IR spike is the the exhaust of the avionic bay vent situated behind the cockpit.
The reply of the Rafale programe manager was that this picture was taken before ALL IR sources had been TREATED.
You wont find this sort of IR spike on the serie Rafale today.
The ony noticeable difference between the two is that Rafale picture is taken from ABOVE weither that of Typhoon from under.
One could argue that Typhoon visit panels are thiner under than the skin on the top fuselage, but this is unlikely.
The reason for Typhoon higher IR signature are well documented, and NOT as some cartoon characters are trying to make up, assumptions from myself used to make false points.

IR signature on M-88 is treated on three points, an extra cooling channel and dual condi-nozzles, the extra engine casing which is itself externaly cooled using the same channel than that exhausting between the two sets of con-di nozzles.""

The two sets of nozzles are what I 'm talking about . They can be opened or closed :

Closed :

Opened :

I don 't know yet the details on how the system is working exactly (when is it open or close , how is it done , why and what by , etc) but I 'm looking into it .

Cheers .

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Herald12345 Don't readback and don't LIE 7/22/2009 3:33:10 PM

When I make a mistake I tell you, and explain the "data" [unverified claim] I find, poster.

You didn't have a clue except what stuff you read on an internet forum. At least I had the HONESTY TO LOOK AT THE IMAGE and check it for detail to see aspect.

Herald

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Bluewings12 7/22/2009 3:33:16 PM

Herald :

""The joker, BW, is finally right about one thing.""

Lmao ! You did find out that I was right because you took the time to check .

Do that with each of my post and I 'll be happy .

Cheers .

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Bluewings12 7/22/2009 3:49:58 PM

Herald , regarding the Mica mid-link antenna (which you keep bashing has it 's not well placed , you even said that it was part of the body , etc , all kind of BS ) , look where the antenna really is :