Give up Herald , you do NOT know what you are talking about ...

 

Your stupidity is only matched by your bias , clown .

 

Cheers .

When I reduce a poster to this, I know I caught him in another false representation, and cited his own source against him to prove it. What's the matter, truck driver? Even with your brigade of fellow travelers you imported to pollute the forum with your collective fantasies, you can't handle the TRUTH? Three ignorant posters like you trio of fantasists, are still three ignorant posters, no matter how many misrepresentations  and desperate alibis for the defective Rafale, the three of you post.

 

Herald 

 

Quote:  When I reduce a poster to this, I know I caught him in another false representation, and cited his own source against him to prove it.

  You made a fool of yourself and opnly have yourself to blame you reduced no one but yourself...
 

 

 

  AGAIN dont take your case for a general rule, ignorance isn't my forte but apparently it is yours...

 

 

Quote: This just shows that you don't understand what was said or why I chose it.

 You did not know what you wre writing dont try to make up you did, the choice of sweep angle had nothing to do with what you said.

Lie. Go back and read it again.

  >but was actually a designer compromise for angle of attack (lift versus drag) in the mainly turn oriented energy regime,<

  This is what you said it means absolutly NOTHING and certainly not what you say not it did.

It means exactly what I said and the fact that you do not understand it proves you haven't got a clue as to what we discuss.

Quote:  It says exactly what I said it says. The lesding edge of the wingplan form determines at what delay the shock tube drag exerts maximum effect on the airframe.

  Please learn your basics and stop trying to imply you said something you did not.

 Blah-di-blah begginers stuff which basicaly doesnt MEAN anything...

What is a shock tube? Do you even know the term?

  Back to newbies school for you Herald

And you are still a liar.  Want to play games with a fellow six year old? I have a couple of ignoant oines here who are your speed.

  AGAIN dont take your case for a general rule, ignorance isn't my forte but apparently it is yours...

The general proof is the three of you  mutually reinforce each other's stupidity and lies  ON CUE. Just how naive do you think the rest of us really are? You are a disgrace to FRANCE. Frenchmen generally are better educated and more HONEST than you.

 
Quote: What is a shock tube? Do you even know the term?

  Frenchmen ARE perhaps more educated and honnest than YOU for sure!
 

 

Quote: Lie. Go back and read it again.

  Done time and time again, being in a state of denial doesn't make you an educated person in a field you didn't study and dont start to comprehend the basics of.

Assertion with no fact of proof. Lie.

Quote: It means exactly what I said and the fact that you do not understand it proves you haven't got a clue as to what we discuss.

  It means exactly NOTHING according to aerodynamic languages and known rules, you are an ignorant trying to make up that you know something which visibly is way above your knowlege base.

It means basically that when a delta plan form plane tilts the longer  it can delay drag effect (push drag effect aft)and stall the tighter it can turn at higher speed than a comparable swept wing type. What's so hard to understand?

Quote: Its plain English. Obviously you are trying desperately to establish some credibility by trying to say "tain't so". Problem is that simple denial now that you been caught in multiple errors and lies doesn't substitute for KNOWLEDGE in subject."

  I DONT need to establish credibility, as opposed to YOU, i know my basics and a lot more advanced stuff which you dont even understand to the point of mystaking everything.

Well actually LIAR, you do need to establish credibility since you didn't understand the first thing anyone competent in subject said. 

  = Back to newbies school for you Herald

Quote:  And you are still a liar.  Want to play games with a fellow six year old? I have a couple of ignoant oines here who are your speed.

  Insulting people is all you got you can't make your case, you dont have what it takes, so be it, you wont be lookinsg smarter only more of what you really are, an ignorant flamer.

Insulting you is EASY. You are so much the 1%er.

Quote:  Rhetorical trick. Meaningless noise. but to really cut him up by showing the world what a fool he was by destroying him with FACTS

  FACTS ARE: You dont know the subject the slightest and ressort to insults and reverse psychology, you are in great need of people attantion and even more of education.  

Assertion with no facts., Another lie. U didn't crawl in here under an assumed name under a coward's cabal, Pierre.

Quote: Apparently, you missed the rest of it when I correctly lumped you in with the other two. You are part of a class set of fantasists.

  BOY the only fantasist is you, when i speak about the subject to a pilot or an aerodynamicist we understand each other, he would advise you to look at NASA's begginer's topics just as i did.  

What reputable aerodynamacist do you know. NAME ONE.

Quote: The general proof is the three of you  mutually reinforce each other's stupidity and lies  ON CUE..... Frenchmen generally are better educated and more HONEST than you.

Quote: Its written ZILCH. And what is a shock tube again? Still waiting on that one.

 

Quote: Lie. Go back and read it again.

  Done time and time again, being in a state of denial doesn't make you an educated person in a field you didn't study and dont start to comprehend the basics of.

Assertion with no fact of proof. Lie.

Quote: It means exactly what I said and the fact that you do not understand it proves you haven't got a clue as to what we discuss.

  It means exactly NOTHING according to aerodynamic languages and known rules, you are an ignorant trying to make up that you know something which visibly is way above your knowlege base.

It means basically that when a delta plan form plane tilts the longer  it can delay drag effect (push drag effect aft)and stall the tighter it can turn at higher speed than a comparable swept wing type. What's so hard to understand?

Quote: Its plain English. Obviously you are trying desperately to establish some credibility by trying to say "tain't so". Problem is that simple denial now that you been caught in multiple errors and lies doesn't substitute for KNOWLEDGE in subject."

  I DONT need to establish credibility, as opposed to YOU, i know my basics and a lot more advanced stuff which you dont even understand to the point of mystaking everything.

Well actually LIAR, you do need to establish credibility since you didn't understand the first thing anyone competent in subject said.when you posted under your other name of Pierre.  

  = Back to newbies school for you Herald

Quote:  And you are still a liar.  Want to play games with a fellow six year old? I have a couple of ignoant oines here who are your speed.

  Insulting people is all you got you can't make your case, you dont have what it takes, so be it, you wont be lookinsg smarter only more of what you really are, an ignorant flamer.

Insulting you is EASY. You are so much the 1%er and so ignorant, it is a farce..

Quote:  Rhetorical trick. Meaningless noise. but to really cut him up by showing the world what a fool he was by destroying him with FACTS

  FACTS ARE: You dont know the subject the slightest and ressort to insults and reverse psychology, you are in great need of people attantion and even more of education.  

Assertion with no facts., Another lie you wrote. For example, I didn't crawl in here under an assumed name under a coward's cabal, Pierre. I didn't see you try to deny it, or even attempt to justify such craven behavior, so you are nailed with it, and BW with you.   

Quote: Apparently, you missed the rest of it when I correctly lumped you in with the other two. You are part of a class set of fantasists.

  BOY the only fantasist is you, when i speak about the subject to a pilot or an aerodynamicist we understand each other, he would advise you to look at NASA's begginer's topics just as i did.  

What reputable aerodynamacist do you know? Boy your fantasy life is really interesting.

Quote: The general proof is the three of you  mutually reinforce each other's stupidity and lies  ON CUE..... Frenchmen generally are better educated and more HONEST than you.

Its written ZILCH. And what is a shock tube again? Still waiting on that one.

 

Herald

Herald

Still couldn't find out what a simple term like shock tube meant or explain how you fouled up angle of inciodence or expl,ain the half so dozen lies you were caught in?

 

Your ignorance is proved.

 

Tell me...why can the Typhoon OUTTURN the Rafale again? Why can its radar see farther? Why does it have better A2A missiles?

 

Herald

 

 

 

 

Boy, you really need to find yourself a social network where you can talk about the personal issues which are creeping out at every single of your post.

 

  It is more than obvious that you have a huge anger management problem, translating into pure flaming, while trying to debate on subject you don't comprehend even at their moct basic levels just for the stake of associating with someone you think is better than you; most of the time you are right i rarely saw someone as little aware as you are.

 

  My advise; see a councelor, and eventually start learning at the lowest level, because all you nanaged to do is to so far make a fool of yourself very publicly and get a deserved reputation of flamer and ignorant, your lot, your fault, no one asked you to pretend and self-own your little person.

 

  People like yourself risk self-ownage trying to swallow way more than they can chew and if this lesson isn't enough , i have alot more for you in reserve, but don't go flattering yourself thinking i am the slightest interested; i'd rather talk to a more knowlegeable person than myself ,at least there is interest in the conversation, yours is boring, ennoying and pointles.

 

  We are not interested in your fantasies and inventions, those who learnt  abouyt these things know how to spot an ignorant neewbie just looking at the few first line they write, meaning you dont know the technical terms even in your own language, you dont understand what they mean, you mystake all the elementary basis and even more the complex topics.

 

  There no point for me loosing my time even trying to explain more to you, you dont have the necessary basics to understand and this is where you need to start, the basics...

 

  Now try playing with some one your size for a change.

 

 

We are not interested in your fantasies and inventions, those who learnt  abouyt these things know how to spot an ignorant neewbie just looking at the few first line they write, meaning you dont know the technical terms even in your own language, you dont understand what they mean, you mystake all the elementary basis and even more the complex topics.

 

 OUCH!

 

 

 

I believe that Herald (first) and Wingman should stop to go personal .

 

My dear Herald , I 've been on SP for longer than you so I know you from your first post or so . To be perfectly honest , I 've learned a good deal with you , when you speak carefully and intelligently about a topic you know . I admit it , simply .

I do like when you use your own mind to explain something you obviously understand , something you can back up with relevant links . I really do and as I said , I 've learned my bit . What I dislike is when you are overwhelmed and try to come back "to the surface to breeze" because you lost the argument (this is not the end of the World) , at that point you are just talking BS and providing all kind of newly invented words (?) , including posting links which are totally irrelevant and off topic , etc . Then , when everything you tried failed , name calling is popping up .

 

Can 't you just say to a Frenchman : "Ooops , sorry , I was wrong . Thx for the update ;-)" ? Is it beyond your strengh ?

I did it many times here on SP and in an honest manner , even a couple of times with you Herald .

You see , during the very hard to read discussion in between you and Wingman , it was easy to see from very early who was the more knowledgeable of the two of you . I can 't be the only poster here to have felt it . You lost ground very rapidly .

Not that I want to defend another Frenchman on a US forum (not my style , remember me telling FS to f**k off) but Wingman knows more than you do , to put it simply . In some areas , I also do ;-)

So , calm down , chill out and be cool . Thank you in advance Herald .

 

Cheers .

 

 

I see that Joe is back again with his usual BS . The BS I have responded to many times but the man is coming for more .

Great !

You 're ready Joe ? You 'll better be ;-)

 

I want to go back to some basics  , look at this beautiful picture :

 

 

 

Why is the Rafale 's RCS almost 30 times smaller than the F-16 ?

A good eye will spot the differences in no time .

F-16 :

-1) huge central air intake with visible fan blades

-2) Wings angle 

-3) LEX

-4) LEX angle

-5) Belly flaps

-6) Twin tail

-7) Tail angle

-8) No Gold coated canopy

-9) Cone shaped nose

-10) No serrated panels

-11) No RAM coating

and 12th , it hasn 't been built to be discrete .

 

No need to wander why the difference in RCS is rather big .

Regarding the "protuberances" , bad fits and "rivets" , look better :

 

 

From close on :

 

 

This is a late Rafale F2 and I really hope that it clears up things . The actual Rafale 's airframe is very smooth .

The early F1s were rather bad and the first to complain at the time were the Marine Nationale Pilots .

 

Cheers .