Guys, I think I've had an epiphany.  The key to understanding BW's posts is the realization that 1) to him lying and exaggerating are two different things, and 2) putting the greatest possible spin on the story by selectively reporting facts and interpreting them in the most favorable way is completely reasonable and is merely telling the truth.  Thus, keeping in mind 1) and 2), it is the "truth" to say there is a 9.5ton M88 ready to go right now.

 

Good epiphany Warpig !

 

Indeed , against US flag wavers I sometimes have to choose the good bits who go my way but I still say the thruth .

Unlike many well known US posters ...

 

Cheers .

Exaggerating and selectively reporting only the favorable portions of the story is commiting the very worst sort of lying--yes, ***LYING***.  Better to just say nothing than to speak/write with the intention to mislead--even if only by "merely" omitting certain pertinent, but known to you, details.  Bad enough to be a bold liar; even worse to be a sly liar.

 

The poster who never choose his posting can throw me the first stone ...

 

Cheers .

Please Gents , stop it with your nonsenses . I am not lying , I only use the weapons at hand .

Everything I say can be verified (and has been verified) .

 

Let 's go back on topic .

 

Cheers .

 

Then be stoned, because Strategy Page isn't a contest or a debate society where the only thing that counts is winning your argument, and I don't intentionally gloss over or leave out pertinent facts about French systems or anyone else's:  It's contrary to my training.  The worst disservice anyone can do to his commander (or in this case his audience) is to intentionally withhold data from him that you consider to be pertinent, thus preventing him from being able to make the most-informed decision possible.  If your memory is too short, I'll remind you that I've posted more than once that I'd rather have Rafales with MICAs on my side than Su-35s with AA-12s, for example.

 

 "Rufus , for the Xth time I am not lying . Check what I said about the M88 family and what you found on the Net , it is EXACTLY the same for God sake !"

 

For the Xth time, you are a liar.  I knew you were lying from the start, and have since provided everyone with links that prove it.

 

 

Already on the bench?  Where the heck do you get that little bit of information?  "considering" is not the same thing as "in testing" and for that matter "in testing" sure as heck isn't the same thing as being ready for production, which was your original lie.

 

You are a liar, and you don't seem to be smart enough to know when you have been caught.

 

Working as intended?  They haven't even mated the high pressure and low pressure engine sections yet.  They haven't even BEGUN to test the new engine yet. 

 

Are you literate?  Can you read the links I provided you? 

 

We can, and thus we all know that you are a liar. (and this is sadly not the first, second or third time you have been caught)

 

 I will repeat the relevant facts for you:

 

The M88-3 is a developmental engine.  It is certainly not ready for production and simply waiting for funds.  If funded, it will need years of work before it is actually available for service.  All of these FACTS are available in the articles I have provided.

 

Lying about it won't change a thing.

Rufus , I am actualy checking what you said and trying to know if I have made a mistake .

Please , be patient , thank you .

 

Cheers .

If you actually bother to respond to my entire post instead of one line which in isolation piques your need to engage in a pissing contest about the Rafale, I might consider responding further. You'll need to demonstrate that you have actually thought outside your usual box though, I won't bother if you just repeat the same mantra. Otherwise continue to have fun with your friend bluewings.
I do no want to get in a pissing contest about the Rafale, and that is why I'm going to stop responding to BW on this subject. Now I have never called the Rafale crap or bashed French tech. just for the sake of bashing. You can go back to many different posts and see that I have defended French Tech. when people were bashing it for the sake of bashing. I have defended certin parts of the bird that I think are good and criticized others that are not so good. Now, I only responed the way I do to people like BW, because they make this bird out to be the something it is not.

 

Now tell me where I'm wrong?

I think that purchasing the best fighter that they can afford is a smart move on the part of the UAE

 

and I think that as a non-aligned state not only purchasing from one source such as the US is also smart.

 

There is nothing to say that they might only fight Iran or Syria in the future, what if there was ever a conflict with Saudi Arabia

with all of their modern gear with the US backing the Saudis?

 

Being able to trade the Mirages for the Rafales sounds like a pretty sweet deal and is probably why they don't seem to be seriously considering competitors such as the Typhoon and the Gripen.

 

 

Oh, you are "checking" huh?

 

That is really great news!  I will sleep better tonight knowing that an ignorant fanboy, and a liar at that, is "checking" what I just proved.

 

You are a liar bluewings.  I know it.  You know it.  Everyone here knows it.  

 

Give it up.

 

 

 Sounds like UAE also gets a few reactors to help with a nuclear program in response to Iran.

And that is exactly why Israel cannot and is not going to allow Iran to go nuclear. Be it for energy or weapons. UAE will just be the first. All the rest will follow and Israel knows it and they also know THAT would surely be the end of the nation of Israel.