Well said, I only wish our current administration knew the implacation of its actions in regards to the Middle East. I'm afraid to say that Obamas policies towards the Middle East, are the same as Chamberlain and Daladier were towards Germany before the war., it's sad but it is true.

What about the last one? NOTHING HAS CHANGED. Guys, this is bigger than Israel. God help them, but not at our expense. An American President has a duty to look after American interest first. That means before Israeli interest. President Bush Sr. understood this, President Clinton understood this, President Bush Jr. Understood as does President Obama. Even the Israeli leaders understand the limits which is why that have not acted overtly. THEY KNOW THEY CAN'T. Some times it takes more than the will and a bad attitude.

-DA 

Remember Syria. When the Syrians with Iranian and Nork help began building a reactor to develop it's nuclear ambitions, Israel successfully destroyed it with nary a peep from the region's Muslim leadership.  Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan all seemed quite pleased with the outcome. Is there any possibility that the Israeli's could find alternative routes to Iran without US/Iraqi involvement and still accomplish the mission?

 

A wink and a nod from the right countries could open a window of opportunity.

 

Check Six

 

Rocky

More complicated than that unfortunately. Iran can and will peep and the chances of Israel actually achieving the objective are not very good. It's not that we can't all get together and force the issue, it's more of an issue of will we. We being the US and a Coalition willing to work with the Israelis. No question we can bomb Iran, but we would be limited in our ability to contain the response which would require significant ground and naval forces

North Korea has demonstrated fission, throw and intent to some degree.  Iran not so much.  Why argue war on Iran but not North Korea?  Hawaiians need their Asia-manufactured TVs and their security too.

 

The reason is real simple, geography. Most of the Norths artillary is close to the dmz, and that brings it within reach of Soul. If a war was to start between the US and the North, within the first couple of days the north can rain steel on Soul and crush the whole city. There would be hundreds of thousands of dead and wounded, and that includes the 30,000 or so American troops in the country. We, as in America, and South Korea would eventually dafeat the the North within a couple of months, but the casualties on the civilain, military, economical and Industrail level would be so devastating, it will be a big no-no to satart a war like this. The only way a war between America and North Korea would come to fruition is if the North started it. There would be more American dead and wounded within 4 or 5 days of fighting the North then there would be in a war with Iran fought for four to five months. Plus Iran could not do anything like what the North could do to Soul. The human, economical, industrial, consequences of fighting North Korea and Iran is not even comparable. Plus the North those not have religious loons running the country like Iran.

 

More complicated than that unfortunately. Iran can and will peep and the chances of Israel actually achieving the objective are not very good. It's not that we can't all get together and force the issue, it's more of an issue of will we. We being the US and a Coalition willing to work with the Israelis. No question we can bomb Iran, but we would be limited in our ability to contain the response which would require significant ground and naval forces.

-DA 

 

Well then I'd suggest those boneheads in Washington start making plans DA. Israel is not about to let their very existence be threatened because it is *not* in Americas best interest to stop it from happening. Israel cannot allow Iran to obtain nukes and it's not because Iran may nuke them. It's because once that happens every other Arab nation in the mid east will then want nukes and Israel will find itself surrounded on every border with nuke armed Jewish hating Arabs and they are not about to allow that to happen. American support or not, Israel IS going to stop Iran. You can take that to the bank.

 

beazz

There are plans Beazzz. None of them involve unilateral Israeli action.

-DA