Thanks DA . Touch-screen technology is indeed very usefull .

Btw , the F-35 's pit :

h*tp://www.darkgovernment.com/images/f35-cockpit.jpg

 

Rafale 's pit (again) :

h*tp://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9046/rafalecockpit.jpg

We can see that the F-35 's pit is miles away ahead compare to the F-22 . The Rafale (Operational) and the F-35  (paper) are the only real Fighters using a fifth core architecture and it shows .

Cheers .

It's extremely useful. The hand eye coordination really helps and its a "cleaner" interface. If I can look at a display, touch an icon and get information, thats useful and quick. It really does work and I certainly benefitted from it. I certainly don't think it's a bad idea just because Rafale also uses the technology if that is indeed the case. It's a UE thing...

-DA 

DA (to Herald) :

He and some others have a lot of technical knowledge and that is to be respected. But all too often some people forget that there is a difference between theory and practice. I'm staying away from subjective judgements of the Rafale. However, I will from time to time inflict myself on the thread with things I know for certain when I can. Im not taking any sides. What's right is right and whats wrong is wrong. Its just that simple. Having used tough screen technology in combat, I can now appreciate the benefits of it when properly implemented.

-DA 

Like I said you don't know what you discuss. Your opinions mean nothing IN THE AIR or when it comes to physics or ENGINEERING choices.

 

Example that you can duplicate: Take a car. Using a laptop computer mounted on the dash, while driving, try to touch the screen icons or trackball at arm's length while you are a passenger and while the driver turns, making sharp S turns. That is two dimensions at low force loadings.

 

When you have something to say when I can respect your opinions I'll listen. Until then keep your ignorance to yourself.

 

Herald

     

 

 

 

 

I don't need to do that Herald. Again, you are letting your ego get the better part of your judgement. I'm going to keep this objective and not personal and insulting so that maybe we can learn something and remain cordial. Almost every Humvee, Tank, Brandley ect has whats called Blue Force Tracker mounted inside. A lot of our allies have it as do a lot of our ATTACK HELOS. The interface is touch sensitive. It isn't just two dimentional either. The vehicles sit on springs and shocks which move in the vertical plane very violently over terrain and when doing offensive/defensive driving and it goes without saying that the helos arent 2D limited either. The application is battle management focused. There is no reason a fighter can't benefit from this as well. The turning fight and hard manuvering is only PART of the flight profile and then you have other controls on the stick for the basic immediately needed functions. We aren't the only ones either. Look at Helic3om as well. 

Again, Herald, your technical knowledge is respectable. As an engineer I can appreciate that. However, you have no field experience and your operational and tactical knowledge is severely wanting. That I don't come in here insulting you the way you do others when you make these mistakes doesn't mean you are correct. It's just not always worth it to me to go around correcting people. I take exception here because I'm working on a civilian project that used a touch screen interface and this error by you caught my attention. So have a bit of class, say you didn't know, and move on to other things. You were wrong, it's been conclusively demonstrated, move on and get over it...

Regards

-DA 

2 pages ago I said :

 

...Im just posting this as a follow up to the rebuking of the assertion that touch screens are not appropriate for air combat of in combat systems that move violently about.

h*tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIrz4HJdOBw 

Obviously this is different from a fighter but the trends are the same. Touch sensitive displays are rapidly finding their ways into cockpits and I can tell you for a fact they are used in battle all the time and even in combat aircraft. Its a mature technology and very useful.

-DA 

here's the problem, you assume that I am in industry.  I am not.  I've worked procurement on both sides of the house.  I've been on the selling side of the house, the tech side of the house and on the mil evaluation side of the house.

I've evaluated sensors by the primes, I've been involved in run-offs.  When companies are desperate for sales they will sell their children to do so, so we see more than what you will ever see on the internet.

I can support my background - and its current. 

Herald, Darth

Both of you have had confirmation of where I work now.  So, with a high degree of impartiality I can say from my neck of the woods, touchscreens are certainly more and more frequent in the warfighting world. (and air/land/sea)  quite a few are being used in DA situations