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Subject: F22 and F35 as Force Multipliers?
jstillen    4/9/2008 6:44:04 PM
Hello again, I would like to ask some questions of some of the most knowlegable here. Are F35 and F22 sensors able to act as force multipliers with legacy aircraft? Is it possible to employ the new F series fighters to encounter enemy air and direct BVR engagements for legacy aircraft beyond radar deection of the enemy but within engagement range of legacy aircraft missiles? Have tactics been evolved for this? The sensors suggest to me this may be possible. Please, I am new here and admit I lack the expertise of others here so, go easy
 
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Claymore       4/9/2008 7:59:39 PM
I thought the theory was you could use the F-22 to be the senors for a flight of UAVs carrying AMRAAM. The F-22 lights up the target the UAV fires its AMRAAMs and flies home. This thus expands the F-22's BVR capability.
 
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displacedjim       4/9/2008 9:43:59 PM
Yes, the force multiplier aspect has been found in exercises to be very significant, Using a couple F-22 to work with several F-15 and F-16.  I don't have detailed knowledge nor the time right now to dig up some examples.  Sorry.
 
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Herald12345    What they said in spades.   4/10/2008 4:02:43 AM
The radars in question outreach the current rockets' actual MERs and can DATE targets by a wide margin. It isn't restricted to Sparky and Raptor airborne radars either.  Typhoon, Tornado, Eagle, AWACS, AEGIS ships, Darings with their own radars etc, ALL should be able to hand off data to each other in the near future if they don't do so already through a common telemetry protocol.

A past naval example would be the RN ship that during the recent Persian Gulf War plugged into allied naval task force coverage and shot down a silkworm intended to hit a US Iowa class battleship with one of its own Sea Darts. It received  a DATE threat warning from another allied ship or aircraft via remote telemetry, used that data to establish its own track and successfully engaged the Silkworm in a very tough crossing shot in a very clustered space and no time for mistakes. Three Cheers for the Royal Navy!

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jstillen    Thanks   4/10/2008 6:00:57 PM
Thank you- I was very curious about all that computing power and what it could do
 
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nyetneinnon       4/11/2008 2:46:30 AM
Good topic, Jstillen... and yes, this is the conventional thought of future tactics by all modern air-forces.
 
Even non-major air-forces are seeking such capabilities, which will only confound the future hell of air-combat and necessitate even more edge over potential adversaries with constantly upgraded radar/passive sensors and constantly improved missile range and tactics.
 
And it wouldn't hurt to put some kinda future control on this escalation of tech, imo.  My theory is actually that raw technological capability by the average military, available on the open market, will inevitably force a comprehensive arms-control, and global non-aggression pact.  Perhaps by around 2018-2020.
 
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