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Subject: Rafale to see combat in March
Phaid    2/16/2007 11:36:29 AM
Here is my tranlation of yesterday's article in Liberation concerning the Rafale's first combat deployment to Afghanistan. Link to follow. "Baptism of fire for the Rafales. The military is preparing to send five of these combat aircraft to Afghanistan, where they will provide close air support for NATO forces fighting against the Taliban. This will be the first real operational depployment of this new combat aircraft, which recently entered service. Three Rafale of the armee de l'air will be stationed at the Dushanbe air base in Tajikistan in mid-March. At the same time, two Rafales of the Marine Nationale will join the aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle, which is deployed off the coast of Pakistan. These five aircraft will operate over Afghanistan. The Armee de l'Air and the Marine Nationale are currently in the final stages of trials to permit the Rafale to drop laser-guided weapons. Indeed, in its initial version, and for budgetary reasons, the aircraft lacked this capability, which is nonetheless indispensable in all modern conflicts. Each Rafale can carry a payload of up to six 250kg (500 lb) bombs, but the target on the ground must be illuminated by another aircraft, either a Mirage 2000 or a Super Etendard. These air strike operations are in no way hypothetical. Since 2002, French aircraft have regularly participated in offensive missions in Afthanistan. With the declining situationon the ground, the Armee de l'Air has thus dropped 25 bombs since May of 2006. The last such attack took place Tuesday, with a Mirage 2000D dropping bombs at the request of Canadian special forces. For several months, a rivalry has existed between the Marine Nationale and the Armee de l'Air, each hoping to be the first to use the Rafale in combat. In the end, they will do it jointly. At Dassault, this deployment is being celebrated, as in the eyes of the manufacturer it should allow them to convince potential clients to buy the fighter-bomber. After several defeats (Netherlands, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, and Singapore), Dassault is hoping for sales in Switzerland, Greece, India, Morocco, and Libya."
 
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Bluewings12       2/20/2007 11:48:40 AM
The French BattleGroup left Toulon on Sunday the 10th . It has conducted day and night trials near the French coast .
It has then participated at a French-Spanish Naval excercise where a simulated attack on the Spanish Carrier "Principe de Asturias" took place . The attack involved 10 Super Etendards Modernized and few Rafales . The result of the exercise hasn 't been disclosed yet .

The CdG will then go to the Red Sea and in the North Indian Ocean with a stop at Djibouti .The 3rd Rafale F2 will join the other 2 already onboard at that time .
The BattleGroup will be composed of :

- CdG Aircraft Carrier (3 Rafale F2s , 9 F1s , 16 SEMs)
- Frigate Cassard
- Frigate Sutherland (UK)
- Frigate Tourville
- Frigate Dupleix
- Command and supply Ship Marne
- SNA Casabianca

Cheers .

 
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Tercio    Bluewings12   2/20/2007 11:57:22 AM
Bluewings12, if you get info about the outcome of the joint exercise, would you mind to let us know?. Thanks.
 
Tercio
 
The French BattleGroup left Toulon on Sunday the 10th . It has conducted day and night trials near the French coast .

It has then participated at a French-Spanish Naval excercise where a
simulated attack on the Spanish Carrier "Principe de Asturias" took
place . The attack involved 10 Super Etendards Modernized and few
Rafales . The result of the exercise hasn 't been disclosed yet .



The CdG will then go to the Red Sea and in the North Indian Ocean with
a stop at Djibouti .The 3rd Rafale F2 will join the other 2 already
onboard at that time .

The BattleGroup will be composed of :



- CdG Aircraft Carrier (3 Rafale F2s , 9 F1s , 16 SEMs)

- Frigate Cassard

- Frigate Sutherland (UK)

- Frigate Tourville

- Frigate Dupleix

- Command and supply Ship Marne

- SNA Casabianca



Cheers .
 
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Phaid    more details of Agapanthe 07   2/20/2007 12:30:40 PM
 Currently the CdG has onboard:

14 Super Etendard Modernisés (SEM)
9 Rafale F1
2 Hawkeye
4 helicopters (among which 1 Puma from the Army)

Once they reach Djibouti, two more SEM and the 3 Rafale F2 will join the air wing.

The UK frigate will join the group near Djibouti.  Right now the Spanish AAW frigate Blas de Lezo is in the group and will leave when HMS Sutherland joins them.

Also, Casabianca had to return to port due to engineering problems and will be replaced by Amethyste.

Interestingly, the Marine Nationale website talks about the air group conducting exercises with Italian F-16s and Eurofighters near Corsica and Sardinia.  It would be interesting to find out more about those...
 
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Bluewings12       2/20/2007 1:25:53 PM
Thanks Phaid :)

Indeed , the Amethyste has replaced the Casabianca .
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I 've heard that Typhoons were NOT present at the excercise near Italy 's cost ...

Cheers .

 
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Ispose    Good for Rafale   2/21/2007 8:41:13 AM
Good for the Rafale folks to get some real CAS experience. I'm not a big fan of all things French but I salute them. Hopefully all return home safely. Now if only we could get the Germans to actually engage the enemy.
 
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capt soap    Frech quality weapons   2/21/2007 10:51:52 PM
I like the Rafale,but I hope it's well tested this missele is of Frech quality link
 
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Bluewings12       2/22/2007 8:32:13 AM
I was wrong regarding the Typhoons not participating .
Indeed , Air Combat simulations took place on February 15-16 over the Mediterranean Sea in between Italian Typhoons and French Rafales . The results haven 't been disclosed yet .

Cheers .

 
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sentinel28a       2/23/2007 4:40:38 AM
Those results will indeed be interesting...and should start another 40 or so threads of "Eurofighter vs. Rafale." 
 
Looking forward to it!
 
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