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Subject: After America who has the second best Air Force in the World?
The Lizard King    7/12/2005 8:40:35 AM
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DropBear    RE:hand me downs   12/4/2002 7:18:14 AM
2)why do you need a new tank? what enemies except some pissed off aborigines do you have? A tad racist aren't we?
 
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DropBear    RE:Oz - DarthAmerica   7/13/2005 5:36:00 AM
Is that whilst we are tracking your strat bombers? link link
 
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DarthAmerica    RE:Oz - sentinel28a   7/13/2005 5:39:55 AM
Decent was not meant as an insult Drop. I say decent only because you lack the AWACS and Tanker assets I love so much. Also 35 Pigs, while potent, is a relatively small force. A smart opponent would use intelligence officers and/or SOF personnel to kill most of the crews just prior to conflict in a series of DA missions. You have 12 or so crews now so its a good option to reduce the numbers of Pigs you can send out.
 
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DropBear    RE:Oz - sentinel28a   7/13/2005 5:43:33 AM
Slow down??? Matey, I'm just getting started. JSF is a handy little stealth mud mover and no doubt users like USA will find its inherent RCS qualities superb, however, as my nearest neighbour operated about 12 geriatric F-16A's with no AEWACS, no AAR, no BVR - I seriously doubt I need said mud mover muppet. I will happily look at replacing 71 Hug Bugs and 35 Pigs with 100-120 Rhino, including EA-18G, however, as my Gov prefers AII over AoA, I guess I will have to just continue to vote for these simpering smurf merchants. I would dearly love B-1b's, however, we shan't get them as it would upset the neighbours. We have a history (unfortunately) of asking our potential enemies if it bothers them that we are buying goodies that can bomb them into submission. Strangely enough they are never too happy about that particular prospect (mores the pitty). JSF - long range? Willy to Amberley then Tindal whilst sucking vapiurs? Only 5 tankers in total remember.
 
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DarthAmerica    RE:Oz - DarthAmerica   7/13/2005 5:44:15 AM
"Is that whilst we are tracking your strat bombers?" Well SOCOM could hinder that. Not that it matters as the Bombers will be under heavy escort ready to swat away any bugs that rise up to challenge. Not to mention those bombers, which outnumber your fighters, will be firing many cruise missiles. There is no hope of not getting saturated AND dealing with the F-22/F-15 on sweep. You are good but simply not strong enough.
 
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DropBear    RE:Oz - sentinel28a   7/13/2005 5:46:56 AM
"A smart opponent would use intelligence officers and/or SOF personnel to kill most of the crews just prior to conflict in a series of DA missions." That is why we have 4RAR, SASR and TAG East. As for base security post 9/11, well we bought bigger guard dogs and longer chains, so the specforces beware! Besides, any SOF operatives trying to bump off Pig drivers at Amberley will have to contend with traffic congestion in BrisVegas first. They probably will give up in dispair having spent 4 hours on the Ipswich MWY! ;)
 
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DarthAmerica    RE:Oz - sentinel28a   7/13/2005 5:50:21 AM
"JSF - long range? Willy to Amberley then Tindal whilst sucking vapiurs?" -- drop Thats why you buy enough so they can all cover different sectors. I mean FL based tactical aircraft arent much use to OR airdefense.
 
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DropBear    RE:Oz - DarthAmerica   7/13/2005 5:51:54 AM
Just wait until good ol' Oz buys into NMD! Whilst I am no fan of the senior service - darn swabbies!, I think my fellow navally inclined SP contributors would put up an argument that the thrilling, exciting, gee I can't wait, I'm wetting myself in anticipation Air warfare destroyers will quickly dispatch any nasties that care to challenge the might (yeah right!) of the RAN. I on the otherhand am not overly moved by said procurement (can you tell?), but as the Navy is akin to the Army - Whores must have their trinkets.
 
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DarthAmerica    RE:Oz - Drop   7/13/2005 5:52:10 AM
Well Drop it sounds like you guys are on the bounce down there so I sleep well knowing you are safe. Like I said, you have a GOOD military well suited to your needs. Now go buy a carrier or some BONEs.
 
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DropBear    RE:Oz - sentinel28a   7/13/2005 5:54:24 AM
"Thats why you buy enough so they can all cover different sectors. I mean FL based tactical aircraft arent much use to OR airdefense." The decision to buy up to 100 JSF, for me was as exciting a moment as when I heard that we were to replace the best F-86 Sabre variant on the planet with 116 of the very worst dog-woeful jets the world has ever seen (ok, so the USN Demon was probably a tad worse than the Miracle, but I digress). ;(
 
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