After America who has the second best Air Force in the World?

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DarthAmerica RE:Sweet Dreams Drop... 7/13/2005 6:13:04 AM

Link the thread, when I wake up I'll read it. Thanks DA

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DropBear DarthAmerica - You're not such a dark horse... 7/13/2005 6:13:52 AM

I dunno why other SP folk have such a tuff time with you. Apart from your like of MBT's and F-15 (which I can overlook), you seem reasonable. Perhaps it's the Bundy induced comma, or the fact I'm coming round to the jilted generation that is StratPage. Hmmm...too many thoughts, such little time. ;)

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DropBear RE:Sweet Dreams Drop... 7/13/2005 6:15:39 AM

Yep, some nice little pics of tracked targets you got there.

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DropBear RE:Sweet Dreams Drop... 7/13/2005 6:18:11 AM

Er, if you mean the particular thread where RAAFBear is fighting the good slugfest against anti-RAAF infidel arty loving tankers, well sorry sport, but you'd have buckleys to the power of less of actually focusing on ONE thread as several threads are attributed to the land warfare gunbunnies.

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Bush will win RE: DarthAmerica - You're not such a dark horse... 7/13/2005 10:51:05 AM

In terms of combat experience/training 1. Israel 2. USA 3. UK 4. France 5. Germany Overall 1. USA 2. France 3. Israel 4. UK 5. Germany

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Herc the Merc RE:FS 7/13/2005 2:05:18 PM

How did you compare Japan, China, Russia, India & Germany. Clearly Russia and China have volume, India has the best quality & Germany history?? My rank would be-- 1-India, 2-Russia/China 3-Japan/Germany.

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USN-MID RE:Oz - DarthAmerica 7/13/2005 3:42:46 PM

Ah, the old Navy vs. AF vs. Army debates. Drop, if the RAN got their hands on a nice big well-rounded fleet of SSNs and SSKs combined with satellite surveillance systems and maritime patrol aircraft, I'd expect Australia to be impregnable from ANY assault. Similarly, you could theorize that a large force of umm "strategic" bombers, F-22s and maritime patrol aircraft would work just as well. Same goes for MLRS, armored units, and air defense systems. Now...which is the most efficient? The nice thing about the naval solution is that nobody but the navy, and MAYBE the air force has to deal with the threat. Enemy ground elements don't even enter the picture until they break through to the shore. SSGNs and SSNs could take out an invasion fleet before they get close enough to even consider launching carrier based aircraft. And I don't think airfields near Australia are a viable solution. Not to mention the possibility of disrupting them with SSK/SSNs supporting commando teams. Being islands, they need replenishment to stay running. There is nothing as "invisible" as a SSN at sea to enemy forces. Even stealth aircraft need an airfield from which to conduct business. Subs have the entire ocean to operate from. And with new potential improvements in sub communications and support, there is the distinct possibility of multiple subs converging and wiping out the largest battle fleets. Imagine a combined assault involving SSGNs firing anti ship missiles(Oscar style) mixed with SSNs(688 types) dumping Mk48s under ships. Maybe time that to coordinate with the fleet entering a minefield you've set up...that should be fun for the surface fleet.

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kjetski RE:Oz - DropBear 7/13/2005 4:39:20 PM

You blokes would be in trouble if you had to. The actual number of B-52's you blokes could manage to sortie on any given day would be thumped by Bugs and Pigs after we let you fly them right across the pond. I won't hold my breath... -snip- Is that before or after you are hammered with several hundred cruise missles? Any airforce that is dumb enough to try anything against any USAF, Navy or USMC air will cease to exist in a matter of hours.

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kjetski RE:Oz - DarthAmerica 7/13/2005 4:45:49 PM

RE:Oz - DarthAmerica 7/13/2005 4:47:12 AM Thankyou for the definition. I know what IADS stands for. If you could explain it in the Oz context I would be chuffed to bits. P.S. You'll find our Wedgies are still in CONUS. Not much help to us there. Also, you need not explain JORN OTH to me as I have a passing interest in Telstra. Airborn Early Warning, eh? Would that include a National Jet Systems BAE-146 with binoculars? Hmmm... Australia's IADS is simple. It is modelled on the trusty "tyrrany of Distance Model". It works by discouraging foreign aggressors by requiring them to fly 12 hours just to find that 2/3 of the country is harsh arid desert that nobody lives in. Usually said enemy turns around (if they have the fuel) and goes home, minus the prawns. Actually more cost effective than BMEWS and NORAD. You can argue maintenance needs all you like. A USAF F-16 sqn has the same needs as an RAAF F-18 sqn. Plane for plane, you blokes suck. P.S. Sell us a dozen B-1b's and I'll overlook your sale of rusty, geriatric Newport LST's to Australia. -snip- Indeed there is not much in OZ that anyone would care to have. I do understand that there is some type of immigration problem that ya'll have. I am not so sure I like the way that refugees are handled by OZ but it is your country. I am surprised that the RAAF is still flying those damn F-111's. Those things have to be a hazard to stand next to let alone fly!

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kjetski RE:Oz - sentinel28a 7/13/2005 4:55:45 PM

RE:Oz - sentinel28a 7/13/2005 6:02:07 AM "The F-35 and F-22 represent the pinnical of modern fighter technology and fundamentally alter things compared to conventional fighters. BTW, what variant are you getting? " We will be buying the overly expensive sourc-code lacking, range defficient, AGM-142 averse, single-engined, I have crashed into the ocean and have to contend with the sharks, RCS export downgraded, low-rate initial doesn't do what we want Block1 derivative F-35A. Should be a real beauty!!! -snip- And there is something better you can buy? I imagine that you can go out to the storage facility in Arizona and get some F-4's real cheap!

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DropBear RE:Oz - kjetski 7/14/2005 2:40:45 AM

Thankyou for your ill-informed comments wrt Oz. I shall notify DefMin and take them onboard.

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Enzo RE:DarthAmerica - FS 7/14/2005 5:09:58 AM

Pshaw...your either the best or you're dead. A dead "2nd place" pilot is just as worthless as a dead "7th place" pilot.

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giblets Training and Equipment, not all things being equal. 7/14/2005 8:12:09 AM

The Raf may have some 'olcer airframes' but as we have seen with pilots in old, and inferior aircraft such as the Tornado f3 beating F-15's its not all based on that. Pilot training is also very important. As for equipment, talking about aircraft such as the Tornado, and comparing the Uk/ German/ Italian as being the same is ridulous. Germany is effectivley still flying the GR1, whilst the UK has updated theirs to GR4 standard, with vastly improved avionics, and equipmment and weapons ability. The F3's now routinely run SEAD operations too.

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kjetski RE:Oz - kjetski 7/14/2005 5:46:18 PM

Thankyou for your ill-informed comments wrt Oz. I shall notify DefMin and take them onboard. -snip- About OZ immigration policy? Or the F-111?

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Shooter RE:After America who has the second best Air Force in the World? 7/14/2005 6:35:49 PM

England, for all around and Japan for best local force, better than the Brits, but lacking long range bombers/strike AC!

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