After America who has the second best Air Force in the World?

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DropBear RE:hand me downs 12/4/2002 7:18:14 AM

2)why do you need a new tank? what enemies except some pissed off aborigines do you have? A tad racist aren't we?

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DropBear Might I add... 7/12/2005 8:32:57 PM

In Southern frontier, Aces North, Pitch Black etc etc etc we have bitch slapped USAF F-16's and French Mirage 2000 etc etc etc. Amusing that USA, UK, France, Israel etc are always at the top of these naff rankings when (apart from Israel) the RAAF has soundly beaten all who come in wargames. Not to mention waxing Malaysian Mig-29's, Thai F-5E's etc etc etc blah blah blah... Some of you supposedly "top of the list" Air Forces need to do some homework in this case. Cheers DB.

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EW3 RE:After America???? Don't you mean who is America second the World to? 7/12/2005 8:35:58 PM

OK, we surrender. Now give us our prisoner rations of beer, prawns and babes!

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french stratege RE:After America???? Don't you mean who is America second the World to? 7/12/2005 8:36:17 PM

I agree Oz pilots are top.But the French claim similar differentiators. I know you will speak about the coming of French M2000 who found F111 difficult to intercept (while they are used to slaughter massive numbers of Tornadoes in Europe in training).But M2000-5 vs F18?

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french stratege Oz 7/12/2005 8:41:02 PM

I put Oz in the same band (7) than nederland while Nerderland has 136 F16 with Amraam and good NATO training.So I put a bias of quality in Oz favor.

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DarthAmerica RE:After America???? Don't you mean who is America second the World to? 7/12/2005 8:43:25 PM

I'm going to step in and defend the UK. I dont want to make a list because all airforces designed with different threat matrix and likely missions. Clearly no airforce is anywhere near as powerful as the USAF or the Russian Airforce. But folks the UK has got to be one of the most combat experienced airforces in the world. In terms of modern war they may even eclipse the Israelis whos most experienced pilots are likey Generals by now and dont do as much flying. Not to say their juniors arent good. But the RAF has essentially been at various states of war since 1991. Right along side the USAF. I cant stress enough that actual experience matters most of all. P.S. FS I am pleased to see Egypt made your list...;)

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french stratege DarthAmerica 7/12/2005 9:13:33 PM

In five years: 1: USA 2: France/Israel/Russia (??) 3: Japan/UK/Germany/China 4: India 5: Sweden/Taiwan/Greece/Italy 6: ROK/Australia/Nederland/Spain/Turkey/Canada/Egypt/Saudi India move to band 4 (awacs, M2000-5, SU35, training) UK , Germany and Italy have significant numbers of EF 2000 so end the air combat fighter gap and move up in bands. UK stay behind France and Israel because of total numbers still inferior. Darth: UK pilots are outstanding but they DON'T HAVE ANY POSSIBILITY TO PROTECT THEIR BOMBER FLEET AGAISNT FRANCE, ISRAEL OR JAPAN FIGHTERS. Russia have still more than 2000 fighters and improved Mig 29 SU30/27 SU24 and bombers are still a massive force on a much better technological level than China.And Putine have incresed a lot training funding in the last years.And I think their units are not at the same level for training.Some "elite" and other poor.Spain could move up but I have to check.

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DropBear RE:After America???? - FS 7/12/2005 9:40:22 PM

"But M2000-5 vs F18? " RAAF Hug F-18 Vs French Mirage 2000. I know who my money is on! Perhaps you aren't familiar with a Hug Hornet? It isn't the same as an F-18C you do realise?

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DropBear RE:Oz 7/12/2005 9:41:59 PM

You're so kind. In quality I'd go RAAF RAF Sweden Switzerland Germany France USN USMC USAF and who cares about the rest, right?

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DarthAmerica RE:DarthAmerica - FS 7/12/2005 9:47:23 PM

FS I understand your opinion on the UK RAF. Keep in mind I am not comparing power. In terms of power the USAF and Russians are still number 1 and 2 respectively. The UK doesnt have the same a2a power as some of the nations you mention BUT they dont really have the need either considering the threats they face. Unless you really believe the France vs the UK thread, the UK is properly organized to deal with the challenges they face. Also they are aquiring the EF2000 and JSF which will give them more parity in a2a capability with some of the nations you mention. Also noteworthy is that the UK pilots are more combat experienced than all the nations in your bands except for the US and flying proven planes with proven weapons. P.S. send an email when you get a chance to darthamerica@gmail.com

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