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Subject: How stealthy is the Raptor's arse?
fullamongo    4/28/2005 6:46:44 AM
You heard me! Would it be quite easy to detect and get a lock on a Raptor if you were looking at it from behind at BVR?
 
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bluenose    RE:d-jim - bluenose   5/9/2005 8:48:47 PM
it does go a little further out than that.. approx another 2000k's from the west coast (official figures - unofficial have anecdotally been greater) -------- The east and west coast OTH-B radars were anecdotally called 1600 NM radars but the range of these monsters is so dependent on ionospheric conditions that its more like "where can we see today?". ------------ the system was turned up "live" last year. the DARPA announcement about joining in a Aust/US co-operative development programme to integrate the capability into BMD was announced late last year as well. ----- Are you sure? How in the world are they going to make this thing work for Ballistic Missile Defense? ----------- The system is militarily operational, and has been used as an active participant in a number of conflicts starting from 1991. ------------- The Aussies called Jindalee operational for the longest time when it was patchwork wires and cables. What conflicts has it been used in? These things are NOT tactical, and good for early warning only - we used to call it AW/AA because they are not capable of the fine resolution required for weapons guidance. ----------------- btw, both JORN and Nostradamus use a common US contractor (KEL). The French don't really talk about foreign input into Nostradamus, but take away KELs input and they would end up having a large clothes line useful for hanging out your washing.
 
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Bluewings    RE:d-jim - bluenose   5/10/2005 12:18:47 AM
Quote : "btw, both JORN and Nostradamus use a common US contractor (KEL). The French don't really talk about foreign input into Nostradamus, but take away KELs input and they would end up having a large clothes line useful for hanging out your washing." - gf0012-aust Maybe not : link Btw , Radar technology in France has nothing to envy to anyone else , as far as I know . I would even say that we are pretty good at it ... Cheers .
 
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gf0012-aust    RE:d-jim - bluenose   5/10/2005 12:21:46 AM
"Are you sure? How in the world are they going to make this thing work for Ballistic Missile Defense?" i assume that DARPA and DSTO will have deep and meaningfuls about that... ;)
 
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gf0012-aust    RE:d-jim - bluenose   5/10/2005 12:25:41 AM
"The Aussies called Jindalee operational for the longest time when it was patchwork wires and cables. What conflicts has it been used in? These things are NOT tactical, and good for early warning only - we used to call it AW/AA because they are not capable of the fine resolution required for weapons guidance." they've been used for active surveilance over the Indian Ocean and backdoor viewing during East Timor, have also been used for Global Hawk T&E's. Anomalous views were pulled during the Gulf War
 
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bluenose    RE:d-jim - bluenose   5/10/2005 10:08:24 AM
"The Aussies called Jindalee operational for the longest time when it was patchwork wires and cables. What conflicts has it been used in? These things are NOT tactical, and good for early warning only - we used to call it AW/AA because they are not capable of the fine resolution required for weapons guidance." they've been used for active surveilance over the Indian Ocean and backdoor viewing during East Timor, have also been used for Global Hawk T&E's. Anomalous views were pulled during the Gulf War I guess my response is "so ?" To what end? Its purely anecdotal - like I said "what can we see today"?
 
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bluenose    RE:d-jim - bluenose   5/10/2005 10:13:55 AM
"Are you sure? How in the world are they going to make this thing work for Ballistic Missile Defense?" i assume that DARPA and DSTO will have deep and meaningfuls about that... ;) Well IF its so I would assume the same, but understanding the systems and how they work, as I do, I can't see it. Ballistic missiles won't be in the radar beam for any length of time and may never be noticed, even with exotic data processing capabilities. Even if you could somehow steer a beam quickly, and I mean really quickly, in an attempt to track, the technology isn't suited to this type application. The frequency range isn't suited to it. I can see one possibility, and again, it wouldn't be tactical, and useful only for initial attack warning/attack assessment (AW/AA)
 
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gf0012-aust    RE:d-jim - bluenose   5/10/2005 10:38:46 AM
"Well IF its so I would assume the same" well, the US Ambassador made a public statement about in Oz midway through last year, and tech transfer contracts were signed in the last quarter. Somewhere, someone has found a capability item of developing interest. /govt speak off
 
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bluenose    RE:d-jim - bluenose   5/10/2005 11:04:18 AM
"Well IF its so I would assume the same" well, the US Ambassador made a public statement about in Oz midway through last year, and tech transfer contracts were signed in the last quarter. Somewhere, someone has found a capability item of developing interest. /govt speak off ------------ More likely its an attempt to find an additional use for an existing asset, often done to justify more funding for a turkey.........
 
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Shooter    RE:Pretty Obvious NOT   5/17/2005 9:52:01 PM
The Raptor's arse is stealthier than the Rafales nose! EXCEPT WHEN THAT NOSE IS UP AND LOCKED AS WE SAY!
 
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