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Subject: F-35 with supercruise
mike14    2/15/2005 8:44:13 PM
Any one know why they dont give the F-35 supercruise?
 
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elcid    Do not assume that a supercruising plane has to supercruise all the way    2/22/2005 5:33:03 PM
I don't. But it DOES force you to use less fuel efficient engines that you use at all speeds in all situations.
 
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Shaken    RE:To shaken again   2/22/2005 7:07:12 PM
>> (Shaken) >> "There have been mentions in reliable sources (AvWeek, IAPR or JDW) of internal ramping to bypass >> air around the engines in some regimes. The mentions are vague (as are MANY details about the >> Raptor). It is not clear how these operate and what performance impacts are garnered." > > (Adamantine) > If the reports are true, the maximum dash speed of F-22 would have been limited more by the > melting temperature of its skin than the design of the inlet since the F-22 inlet is not as "fix" as it > seems. > > I will give it a Mach 2.2 to 2.3 dash. (Shaken) I understand the Bitching Betty message "Warning, Speed!" is commonly heard one in the Raptor simulators. (Unlike most other fighers that spend whole ACM fights in burner, the Raptor only uses the burner occasionaly or it heads off to self-damage land). -- Shaken - out --
 
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Adamantine    RE:Do not assume that a supercruising plane has to supercruise all the way    2/23/2005 5:00:16 AM
"I don't. But it DOES force you to use less fuel efficient engines that you use at all speeds in all situations" Generally true, but F119 is so advance that even though its subsonic performance can be improve by increasing bypass ratio, its so called less than ideal SFC for subsonic cruise is still competitive with other engine that has much higher bypass ratio, eg F110-GE132.
 
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