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Subject: F-22 VS. Eurofighter
mike14    2/15/2005 2:24:35 PM
Who would win.
 
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Herald1234    Peers?   8/24/2007 7:38:11 PM



No its not. A poll of this forum will show your credibility seriously lacking. FS ECD are good platforms but they arent F-22/35 period. They are roughly on PAR with most other 4th Gen platforms except in the role of precision all weather strike where they lag behind all operational U.S. fighters.

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Poll mean nothing in technical matters.You are not my peers.

ECD are closer to F35/F22 than teens fighters since they have a magnitude superiority in stealthiness and survivability vs teens (LO, ECM, datafusion, ESM, multicaptors...)

Without F22 been introduced in USA now, our current french planned fleet of top line air superiority fighters M2000-5 and rafale F2/F3 alone (roughly 155 fighters in 2011) , would have excedeed the whole USAF dedicated air superiority power in 2010/2011 (its 4 air wing F15C fleet) since you would have only obsolete F15 C (except an AESA F15  squadron) and F16 (since F35 IOC is in 2011).


Cough, poseur 1, over here, cough. 
Herald
 
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utopian    Obvious of course!   8/25/2007 4:16:03 AM
The Eurofighter Typhoon will win most of the dogfights because it's the most advanced fighter in the world!

It's "Supersonic Flight/Cruise" abilities and it's outstanding agility at mach 2 make the Eurofighter superior to the F-22 because within an Eurofighter you can get higher and faster for a longer period of time than any other aircraft, and that means that your missiles will reach the target before! (not mentioning all the other advantages: eg. Eurofighter is more up to date, concerning interface and so on...)

On the other hand the F-22 is rather a stealth-fighter and a bomber than a typical multirole-fighter. The F-22 has some advantages, which the Eurofighter doesn't have. You can't really compare the Eurofighter and the F-22, they are both incredible and they have different advantages, but when it comes to a dogfight, the Eurofighter will win, no doubt!

Post Scriptum: Sorry for my bad English but I think you'll understand.
 
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utopian    Obvious of course!   8/25/2007 4:16:21 AM
The Eurofighter Typhoon will win most of the dogfights because it's the most advanced fighter in the world!

It's "Supersonic Flight/Cruise" abilities and it's outstanding agility at mach 2 make the Eurofighter superior to the F-22 because within an Eurofighter you can get higher and faster for a longer period of time than any other aircraft, and that means that your missiles will reach the target before! (not mentioning all the other advantages: eg. Eurofighter is more up to date, concerning interface and so on...)

On the other hand the F-22 is rather a stealth-fighter and a bomber than a typical multirole-fighter. The F-22 has some advantages, which the Eurofighter doesn't have. You can't really compare the Eurofighter and the F-22, they are both incredible and they have different advantages, but when it comes to a dogfight, the Eurofighter will win, no doubt!

Post Scriptum: Sorry for my bad English but I think you'll understand.
 
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utopian    Right?   8/25/2007 4:21:04 AM
USAF has 9 (nine) F-22 Raptors in service and no intention to buy more, right?
 
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utopian    Right?   8/25/2007 4:21:23 AM
USAF has 9 (nine) F-22 Raptors in service and no intention to buy more, right?
 
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utopian    Right?   8/25/2007 4:31:15 AM
USAF has 9 (nine) F-22 Raptors in service and no intention to buy more, right?
 
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Herald1234       8/25/2007 4:35:31 AM

USAF has 9 (nine) F-22 Raptors in service and no intention to buy more, right?


Nope. Last I checked, we were equipping our second fighter wing and getting ready to equip a third.
And by the way, the Typhoon has a service combat ceiiling of no greater than 18000 meters where itr wallows helpless like a pig.; while the Raptor's comfortable maneuver ceiling is well in excess of  20,000 meters.
 
The Typhoon is looking UP into the Raptors's radar and missiles. That is NOT a GOOD thing if you are a red.
 
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utopian       8/25/2007 4:44:49 AM
"Red" is not good, right ;-)
F-22 catches an Eurofighter on the radar before, but the Eurofighter outmaneuvers the F-22 and it's heat-seeking-missiles twice!

PS: Mozilla Firefox seems to be responsible for my double posts :-(
 
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utopian       8/25/2007 4:51:36 AM
"Red" is not good, right ;-)
F-22 catches an Eurofighter on the radar before, but the Eurofighter outmaneuvers the F-22 and it's heat-seeking-missiles twice!

PS: Mozilla Firefox seems to be responsible for my double posts :-(
 
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utopian       8/25/2007 6:47:07 AM
Eurofigher Typhoon... ...
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcKr7j3NjO0)

The Eurofighter Typhoon is simply the best multirole-fighter (military aircraft) at the moment!
This video is just some kind of a commercial spot but at second 00:36 of this video he's outmaneuvering any other aircraft - without "supercruise"...in supersonic-flight there's no chance to ever reach or target an Eurofighter!

The "Deutsche Luftwaffe" (GER), the "Royal Air Force" (UK), "L'Aeronautica Militare" (ITA) and "El Ejército del Aire" (ESP) all together can't be so wrong, right?
Of course there are the Swedish Saab JAS-39 Gripen,... the US-American Lockheed Martin F-22..., the French Dassault Rafale... and the Chinese Chengdu J-10... which could take up a longterm, neverending fight with the EF-2000, but there's no doubt, that the Eurofighter Typhoon is the best Interceptor at the moment, maybe it's even the best warplane if the worst comes to the worst!
 
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