while I agree with most parts of your post I want to add some thoughts. This discussion started as the usual and  unrealistic platform vs platform discussion with people like SantaClaws etc. argueing that the F-15 is superior to the Typhoon because of 2 factors. When brought back to the grounds of reality and putting things into the perspective, those guys suddenly resort to the "but our warfighting system is better than yours claims". If one wants to make an assessment of the capabilities of different platforms one must create a fair base for such a comparison. People ever view the teens in a context of fighting a foreign nations type. They never even consider the possibility of these foreign nations (often allied with the US) fighting side by side against a common enemy, benefiting from the same support structure and compare how the different types might fare against a common enemy. Or why not assessing how the platforms would fair in an entirely different scenario for example India which has to make a choice for an aircraft and assessing the performance and capabilities of various types for its own force structure with a scenario such as a war against Pakistan or China in mind. Or Saudi-Arabia which operates both the F-15 and the Typhoon for example. It's ever reduced to the US vs X to ensure that regardless of how you'll turn it the US wins. It is nonsense to claim that teen X is better than aircraft Y from somewhere else, because of the warfighting system. It's the warfighting system which is better, not the platform. Replace teen X in that warfighting system with aircraft Y in the end result will be the same, maybe even better as aircraft Y may be better and is subsequently a better force multiplier for the warfighting systems effectiveness.

Actually it's based on the factors that an F15 with a superior radar will see the typhoon first and at a longer distance. The F15 will fire first and the typhoon may avoid the first missile, but it will not avoid the second. 90% of air combat kills are due to the attacker having the advantage of surprise.

 

What is actually funny is how this thread was originally about how the EF was comparable to the F22, but it has really digressed to whether it is a better choice than the F15. And it was actually you who brought up the "warfighting system" argument on page 34 when it was clear that you lost the radar argument.

The F-15 might well be in a position to achieve the first look, the question is at what range. The current Captor should have no issues to detect current F-15s well beyond weapons range. The F-15 will probably do so as well, so in the end it comes down who has the better ECCM as well as ECM package, faster acceleration and climb rate to relevant speeds and altitudes and longer ranging missile.