bah, that sentence is suppose to read "that sums up with will happen to the Eurofighter or any other currently deployed fighter...

bah, that sentence is suppose to read "that sums up what will happen to the Eurofighter or any other currently deployed fighter...

bah, that sentence is suppose to read "that sums up what will happen to the Eurofighter or any other currently deployed fighter..."

Now that was an odd error...hmm

I dont know about you, but that pretty much sums up what will happen to the Eurofighter among currently deployed fighters against the F-22:  slaughter.    As an aside, the F-15 pilots never even knew where the F-22 was until it flew directly over their canopy at a distance of a hundred yards or so.  This entire thread is just foolish.

SInce F15 is a fighter with big RCS and not recent avionic couting only on a radar unable to detect F22 in BVR, F15 is blind.And AMRAAM have very good efficiency on such an aircraft.

Eurofighter as rafale are netcentric aircraft with low RCS, IRST, top RWR and ECM.

Contray to those F15, Eurofighter has other means to detect an F22 in BVR and F22 radar range is greatly diminished.

FS...lol do you have any idea about whats being discussed here? F-15 has link-16 just like the Eurofighter. You demonstrate everyday your complete lack of knowledge.

To be netcentric is not to have only a link 16, it is to have a datafusion computer with correct software and an interface for pilot to exploit it.A F22 can detect a F15 at 300 km and turn around it undetected.

Eurofighter has many other features F15 do not have and which are on first importance when dealling with other LO threats , including much lower RCS, end game ESM/ECM, IRST, REAL datafusion etc....F15 is a former generation aircraft even with updates.

You are the ignorant.

      
Someone who truly knows better correct me please if I am wrong, but... In USAF operations a fighter is not going to be going around blasting away with its radar.  That is done by the AWACS since it is further back, has a better coverage and more power for burn through (is it laughable to think a fighter jammer could jam an AWACS)?.  When a fighter is ready to engage it will then use the AWACS to cue its own radar and minimize the emissions period?  And I would also assume this to be true, but perhaps less so, for the F22 than others.  The AWACS coverage and power is the reason again.   So for aircraft with extensive LO capabilities the odds of being detected is diminished, greatly. 

Honestly, some of these threads are very informative and interesting, but some of these posts get quite repetitive.

From my reading of official OSINT this is the way it works more or less. I know that on land we try to practice EMCON or "emissions control" as much as possible to avoid being targeted. I'm sure the USAF does too. Not only that, but unless you are doing barrage jamming then you have to know what the specific characteristics of the radar are to apply more advanced techniques. I know this for a fact and it is my professional opinion and experience. Barrage Jamming will make you very vulnerable to detection long before you could possibly detect others. It also causes fratricide issues.

 

As to the repetitious nature of these threads. Thats almost always due to FS/BW who insist on trolling the site. Other times it's new enthusiast and fanboys who have only superficial understanding but they are quickly educated.

-DA

I'm only educating you Darth as Herald and other fanboys who have put F22 and F35 to the level of God hand.

Indeed as a foreigner not bounded by US laws like a really informed US military specialist could be, I'm free on my comments on US weapons and especially when I can back them by USA governement open sources .