What's wrong with this guy?

  Nothing, kid.

 This subject is now your incompetence.

Or fake French technologies?

I am interested in truth. What is your excuse?

   So for the time being, we will wait for the informations on full USA HOBS/HMDS LOAL over 360*X360* demonstrated capabilities until you provide us with them Thank you.

 

If you need it, poster.

 

Flying in 3 aircraft and testing as I write this. 

 

Year 2000 tests. 

Now be silent.

 

   We inform and correct innacuracies when needed.

 

   It is easy to post a video and an article while not complying with the poster's demands and i ask you guys again, to show us a succesful test-firing of a target detected, tracked, designated while situated behind the shooter.

 

  So far all US test-firing have been done while the target was situated within the shooter's sensors PoV, meaning front sector.

 

  What you come up with is LOAL/High Off Boresight capabilties, NOT full HOBS and 360*X360* sensor area.

 

  Nearly all in-service current IR AAM have this capability (appart for the older and less maneuvrable that is).

 

   What was demonstrated is the NEXT step, meaning not only HOB bot also use of onboard sensor or remote detection of the target beyhound the aircraft wing line BEFORE launch.

 

   As for the Sci-Fi legends on F-35 we still wait to see one guy capable of making the distinction between A2A and A2G capabilties, the fancy technologies developed in both side of the atlantic, such as shape recognition algotythms are not ported to the A2A role just yet.

 

  Some people should read more technical articles and less commercials, this way they would be able to understand them better...

 

  So the point in regard to this particular topic would be, a Typhoon equiped with ASRAAM would have a larger firing envelop in a fureball (without risk of hitting a friendly or simply missing after a target's evasive) than a F-22 simply because the AAM will have a better cueing  over a much larger firing area.

 

  If you are alone vs a target you might want to use the AAM HOB capabilties but you still will have to CUE it to the target even in LOAL mode, the firing area depends on sensors other than that of the missile.

 

  Now please check in your information.

 

  Thanks

 

 

03/05/2009 20060908raaflight.jpg 2009-03-05 ASRAAM RAAF ENG.doc  author : Jean Dupont

In a world first for an Air Force and an infra-red guided missile, Air Combat Group (ACG) of the Royal Australian Air Force has successfully carried out the first in-service 'Lock After Launch' firing of an ASRAAM (Advanced short-range air-to-air missile) at a target located behind the wing-line of the ?shooter? aircraft. The firing was conducted from an F/A-18 fighter aircraft, at low level and typical fighter speed, at a target located behind the fighter at a range in excess of 5km. The result was a direct hit on the target. The engagement simulated a "chase down" situation by an enemy fighter and successfully demonstrated the potential for an all-round self protection capability with the ASRAAM. This capability is inherent on all platforms that provide pre-launch 'over the shoulder' designation information such as F/A-18, Eurofighter Typhoon and F-35 JSF. Commenting on the firing, a representative from Air Combat Group said ?this demonstration of ASRAAM capability is a major step forward for the RAAF and greatly increases the lethality of ACG?s F/A-18 fleet. It is a credit to the RAAF-MBDA-DSTO team who worked together to deliver this capability edge to the fleet.? ASRAAM entered service with the RAAF in July 2004. To provide unique levels of in service support, facilities were established in Adelaide injecting some AUS million into the South Australian economy over a period of 6 years. The facilities are located at the Defence Science & Technology Organisation at Edinburgh (SA) and at BAE Systems at Edinburgh Park. These facilities provide the in-country capability to support the front line equipment. Having entered service with the Royal Air Force in 2002, and deployed on Tornado, Typhoon, and shortly F-35 JSF, the ASRAAM programme has provided a unique opportunity for information exchange between the respective air forces, government departments and scientific organisations. link

@Herald12345  

 For your info you just demonstrated TWO thing:

1) You dont bother reading other posts, or else you wouldn't havew bothered with outdated infos about test-firing in HOBS modes of target from the FRONT hemishpere (Even a Magic II could do this).

I am well aware of what you claim. I am also well aware that you claim a distinction without meaning here. If you looked at the EAGLE launch the missile was fired at the drone AFTER it entered into the aft arc of the aircraft EAGLE  in the turn. This shows that you don't observe evidence given you very well. it also shows me that you don't read at all. I supplied you with a year old discussion of DASS on the F-35 and the testing profiles in progress. Your brag is less useful than the cooperative aircraft guidance tests that the USAF conducted last year to validate BVR CEC engagement with AMRAAM. 

2) You're arrogant to the point of thinking everyone is playing in the boyz court and you know everything, at the way you talk about european technologies you visibly don't.

Well I am arrogant. But that is better than being ill informed as to the technology.

  Bad news then, you're the one in need of a proper reducation.

 Its spelled education. Get one.

   READ AGAIN:

 I don't need too, fanboy. I have you pegged as a 17 year old without proper technical training.

  Come back when the USA will have demonstrated a succesful test-firing against a target situated BEHIND the shooter at the time of firing.

 

Look at the video again, boy.  

  Otherwise said; a follower, detected, tracked and designated while flying behind the shooter...

Where? If you need one in a pass through multiplane knife fight then we will blow you out of the sky.

  AGAIN: The world FIRST achieved by MBDA is clearly an indication that you are living in fantasyland believing you got a true 36)*X360* firing envelop when nobody actualy does, nor the F-35 nor any other aircrafts..

 When? That farce was an advertising spiel. When you wake yo to what DAS is child you will see what errors you make.

 

 

I can dish out the propaganda too. BOY.

   NOW: Go and do your home work now,

 

Better learn some respect for your elders and BETTERS, kid.

 

"HOB and HOBS are two different things"

 

Oh really?

 

And why don't you break it down for us kid?

 

Tell us what these Acronyms mean...