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Subject: F-22 VS. Eurofighter
mike14    2/15/2005 2:24:35 PM
Who would win.
 
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Adamantine    RE:F-22 VS. Eurofighter   2/15/2005 2:44:33 PM
Isn't it obvious ?
 
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Bush will win    RE:F-22 VS. Eurofighter   2/15/2005 2:51:08 PM
F-22/35 would kill anything out there..
 
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mike14    RE:F-22 VS. Eurofighter   2/15/2005 2:54:00 PM
I think the F-22 can destroy it, but not the F-35.
 
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mike14    RE:F-22 VS. Eurofighter   2/15/2005 2:55:20 PM
Bush will win, I dont think the F-22 or F-35 can shoot a SU-37 out of the sky.
 
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Bush will win    RE:F-22 VS. Eurofighter   2/15/2005 2:56:46 PM
Alright kid.
 
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Bluewings    RE:F-22 VS. Eurofighter   2/15/2005 3:02:05 PM
I think F-22 would probably win but not by the margin people tend to believe . Cheers .
 
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Bush will win    RE:F-22 VS. Eurofighter- bluewings   2/15/2005 3:14:05 PM
And why is that bluewings? You never hesitate to question the air supremecy of the US, but when someone questions the "supremecy" (or lack thereof) of a European country, you get all defensive. Why?
 
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mike14    RE:F-22 VS. Eurofighter- bluewings   2/15/2005 4:35:52 PM
I forgot to add one thing we should all be thinking about, the F-22 is three times the price of the Eurofighter, so if EU had as much money as US the Eurofighter would out number the F-22 three to one.
 
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Bush will win    RE:F-22 VS. Eurofighter- bluewings   2/15/2005 4:51:28 PM
"I forgot to add one thing we should all be thinking about, the F-22 is three times the price of the Eurofighter, so if EU had as much money as US the Eurofighter would out number the F-22 three to one." Alright....? What's your point?
 
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mike14    RE:F-22 VS. Eurofighter- bluewings   2/15/2005 4:59:42 PM
My point is that in a battle numbers do matter, and that should be taken into consideration.
 
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gixxxerking    RE:F-22 VS. Eurofighter- bluewings   2/15/2005 5:07:36 PM
Number do matter but there is no reason an F-22 wouldnt kill each and every Typhoon, or any other conventional fighter, until it ran out of missiles. Then it could simply supercruise away without being engaged. link They best way to beat an F-22 without a similar aircraft, and there is none, is to fight it asymetrically. SOF raids, Ballistic missiles, Cruise missiles, crater runways ect. To try to engage it in the air is suicide. You cant even run from a Raptor in a conventional plane. None of this takes away from the other great a/c out there but the F-22 is simply in a class by itself. Quite unfair, as it should be.
 
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Bluewings    RE:F-22 VS. Eurofighter- bluewings   2/15/2005 5:08:43 PM
Don 'y get me wrong Bushwillwin . F-22 is a better Aircraft but the task to down a Typhoon is no walk in the park . I think F-22 would win the fight , but not everytime . Cheers .
 
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mike14    RE:F-22 VS. Eurofighter- bluewings   2/15/2005 5:14:56 PM
I agree the F-22 can shoot planes out of the sky until it runs out of missles, but the SU-37 with Russian radar can detect the the F-22. I am not sure but I think the SU-37 also has the supercruise capability, but I think it can only cruise at mach 1.3, correct me if I am wrong. The SU-37 can also out manuver a F-22 if things ever got close.
 
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gixxxerking    RE:F-22 VS. Eurofighter- mike14   2/15/2005 5:25:54 PM
The F-22 will shoot down any other fighter each and everytime they meet UNLESS the pilot chooses to engage in foolish WVR dogfighting. IF a dogfight happens then the F-22 will still have the advantage in all performance and manuvering parameters but HMS and modern AAMs can still easily out manuver any fighter. But the F-22 will have the ability to disengage at will in most cases where other fighters will not. As to your comment that the SU-37 can track the F-22, that is true. But then all fighters can track an F-22 if its within a few kms. The SU-37 will not track the F-22 at BVR ranges and this will be a huge disadvantage.
 
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mike14    RE:F-22 VS. Eurofighter- mike14   2/15/2005 5:37:33 PM
Where do you have the information that a F-22 can out manuver a SU-37. Russian pilots would be trained to fly below radar if they knew F-22's are in the area, then they would engage F-22's in dog fight where I think the SU-37 has the advantage.
 
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