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Subject: Iranians Taking Notes, Just In Case
SYSOP    5/28/2015 5:07:13 AM
 
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Spiky    Yemen, Iran, Rebels   5/28/2015 8:51:29 AM
"It now appears that Iran did have a few Quds Force operatives with the Shia rebels for a few years and moved in hundreds more in the months before the blockade was imposed on March 25th."....... although not the only factor to Yemen's downward spiral, the obvious purposeful Iranian involvement in the country is why, at the early stage, I called a destabilizing Yemen lost. Now, if the Houthi rebels get reorganized, we might even start seen more probing incursions in the North of Yemen into the Western parts of Saudi Arabia: this is one of several reasons why the Saud leadership is a little more than nervous.
 
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keffler25       5/28/2015 9:33:02 AM
Quite so. But it should be noted that if the barbarians in Saudiland are despicable, the crazies from Yemen, Shia or Sunni are WORSE. We really don't have many options in pinball crazy-land among the various psychos. The Egyptians (not my favorite bunch either) had a go at civilizing through air power at Yemen back in the 60s, but they found it was a no-go and pulled out just in time for the Six Day War. They, the Egyptian barbarians, thought the Yemenis were savages then. And its apparently gotten worse.
 
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Yemen used to be a center of culture and civilization in the seventeenth century and then the British showed up. Been downhill ever since.   
 
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Spiky    keffler   5/28/2015 5:35:46 PM
Yeah, I hear ya, Yemen is in a strategic location with the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden on its borders. Great for commerce and trade as was the case for Yemen long ago in its history. Wonder how Yemen might have done if it hadn't been such a tribal, Islamic, corrupt, and less interfered with nation. The right leadership, freedom of conscience and critical thinking, freedom of speech for all and acceptance of minorities and other religions, freedom of publically criticizing government or religion/religious founders (without getting killed), strong middle-class economy, and rule-of-law could have made Yemen a lovely place: but this is wishful thinking. Reality is that right now the place is a psychotic and jihadi-bat-crazy land that is getting torn apart by different Muhammad following groups and getting pounded by House of Saud. Pity.
 
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HR    spiky   5/29/2015 12:45:31 PM
A lot of it is traced to colonialism... you have a strategic location that YOU exploit but then comes a colonial power and usurps that location so THEY can exploit it. Once they are established there they try to "protect" their position by interfeering in yours. Happends all the time.
 
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Spiky    HR   5/29/2015 4:28:51 PM
Well, if we are talking colonial times, lets not forget the Ottomans (fellow Muslims). If I remember correctly, they had the northern half of Yemen, and, of course, the British had the southern half. Those are the major foreign players during colonial times for Yemen; those were the exploiters who had Yemen carved in half like a cake. One from the Middle East the other from the West.
 
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