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Subject: Future Navy (keep it real)
perfectgeneral    7/25/2005 11:12:43 AM
The drastic cuts will be stopped, but the reversal will be slow. If it isn't already announced we won't get it in the medium term (2008-2015). Longterm the shortcomings in the RN force mix and level will be re-examined, but it may be too late by then. We have dropped a step level in relative naval capability. CVF x2 (the French - definately onboard now - will see that this goes over budget in spite of all precautionary measures now in place) T45 x8 (a bold design/size - more please!) OPV(H)x1 (please upgrade the other Rivers at least. A further lease of 4-6 more might help bridge the capability gap) Astute x4 (what a mess - can this ever be good value? TLAM VLS will help order 4 more, but not until the money is right)
 
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perfectgeneral    RE:Future Navy (keep it real)- OPV(H)/GCo(Trimaran)   7/28/2005 12:20:35 AM
I see the small littoral waters vessel as an anti-smuggling patrol craft. Trade in drugs and people help fund terror. This is a new commitment to an old problem. I only mention the Global Corvette (Trimaran) in reply to doubts over the OPV(H) design in terms of speed and for supporting a helecopter (lynx?). Sometimes it is easier to ask others to act on an issue if you are already showing willing. Politics and diplomacy sometimes follow the gunship rather than lead it. It is a lot cheaper to play gesture politics with a patrol vessel than a battleship. I have no specific plan to be pinned to, but my intention lies somewhere among these comments. Distant postings early in a career are less likely to disrupt family life. Given the prospect of fishery protection and customs work until a major warship posting, a little patrol work in a sunny clime might be welcome?
 
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perfectgeneral    RE:Future Navy (keep it real)- German 130   7/28/2005 12:59:43 AM
is about 1,500 tonnes full load and as wide as the OPV(h), but can/will reach 30 knots and carry two rotorcraft. It is possible.
 
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interestedamateur    RE:MARS    9/15/2005 11:18:37 AM
I've read somewhere that the requirement for the Maritime Replenishment and Stores ship is for the UK to get 17 of them. Can't remember the source but may have been Janes IDR. Sounds rather alot quite frankly.
 
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Donkey    RE:MARS/interestedamateur   9/17/2005 8:14:49 AM
17 Maritime Replenishment and Stores ships Sounds rather a lot. Well that depends on what plans the MOD has for these vessels I suppose. With the reduction in the Destroyer/Frigate fleets, the RFA seems to be taking over some of the less FRONT LINE roles from the RN; perhaps the MOD sees this as a solution to front line cuts. We need to replace the RFA ships, so give them a duel role; Maritime replenishment & OPV no need to build anymore OPV?s. Donk
 
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interestedamateur    RE:MARS/interestedamateur   9/19/2005 4:56:43 AM
Richard Beedall states that between 8 - 15 hulls are likely to be built. Here's his web-page with the latest news: link
 
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