Trafalgar 200/IFOS

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perfectgeneral RE:Trafalgar 200/IFOS 6/24/2005 8:02:47 PM

I hope to see lots of coverage of these events on the BBC, after all it is tax-payer money putting it on.

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glenponder RE:Trafalgar 200/IFOS 6/26/2005 7:39:31 AM

Im heading down there on thursday (royal navy recruits got a letter from the directorate of naval recruiting offering a ticket and travel warrent rock and roll). The sunday mail for today has a list of ships. British HMS Illustrious HMS Invincible HMS Ocean HMS Albion HMS Bulwalk HMS Trafalgar HMS Turbulant HMS Tranchant HMS Cardiff HMS Exeter HMS Glocester HMS nottingham HMS Southampton HMS Cumberland HMS Iron Duke HMS Lancaster HMS Marlborough HMS Montrose HMS St Albans HMS Westminster HMS Grafton HMS Roebuck HMS Tyne HMS Cattistock HMS Middleton HMS Ledbury HMS Bangor HMS Grimsby HMS Pembroke HMS Ramsey HMS Walney RFA Fort George RFA Fort Victoria RFA orangeleaf RFA Wave Rule RFA Sir Galahad RFA Sir Trista RFA Hurst Point France FS Charles De Gaulle FS Jean Bart FS Perle Beolle Poule FSMutin FS Meuse Germany FGS Asta FGS Sachsen FGS Dillington Belgium Narcis Westdiep Godetia Canada HMCS Montreal Colombia Arc Gloria Australia HMAS Anzac Denmark HDMS Esbern Snare Estonia Admiral Pitka Finland Pohjanmaa Greece HS Hydra India INS Tarangini INS Mumrai Indonesia Kri Dewa Ruci Ireland Le Eithne Italy ITS Giuliano Prini Japan JDS Kashima JDS Murasame JDS Yuugiri South Korea chungmugong Yi Sun-Shin Chun Joo Latvia LVNS Virsaitis Lithuania Kursis Nigeria NNS Aradu Netherlands Hr MS Rotterdam Oman Shabab Oman Al Mua'zzar Pakistan NS Moawin PNS Tippu Sultan Poland ORP General Tadeusz Kosciuszko ORP Iskra Portugal NRP alvares Cabral NRP Sagres II Romania Regina Maria Russia Adventure Admiral Levchenco Spain SPS Principe De Astural Blas De Lezo South Africa SAS Srakensberg Turkey TCG Orucreis Uruguay Rou Captain Miranda USA Coast Guard Eagle

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perfectgeneral RE:Trafalgar 200/IFOS 6/26/2005 7:33:30 PM

HMS Illustrious CVS HMS Invincible* CVS HMS Ocean* LPH HMS Albion* LPD HMS Bulwalk LPD HMS Trafalgar* SSN HMS Turbulant SSN HMS TrEnchant SSN HMS Cardiff T42/1 DD HMS Exeter T42/2 DD HMS Glocester T42/3 DD HMS Nottingham T42/2 DD HMS Southampton T42/2 DD HMS Cumberland T22/3 FF HMS Iron Duke T23 FF HMS Lancaster T23 FF HMS Marlborough T23 FF HMS Montrose T23 FF HMS St Albans T23 FF HMS Westminster T23 FF HMS Grafton T23 FF HMS Roebuck - Costal Survey Vessel HMS Tyne* - River class OPV HMS Cattistock - Hunt ClassMinehunter HMS Middleton - Hunt ClassMinehunter HMS Ledbury - Hunt ClassMinehunter HMS Bangor - Sandown ClassMinehunter HMS Grimsby - Sandown ClassMinehunter HMS Pembroke - Sandown ClassMinehunter HMS Ramsey - Sandown ClassMinehunter HMS Walney - Sandown ClassMinehunter *=first of class RFA Fort George - Fleet Replenishment Ship RFA Fort Victoria - Fleet Replenishment Ship RFA orangeleaf - Support Tanker RFA Wave Rule - Fast Fleet Tanker RFA Sir Galahad LSLogistic(LSD) RFA Sir Tristram LSLogistic(LSD) RFA Hurst Point - never heard of this one Not a bad CBG concidering the current funding crisis.

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Donkey RE:Trafalgar 200/IFOS/RFA Hurst Point 6/27/2005 1:15:00 AM

RFA Hurst Point is one of 6 Point class ship RO-RO ferries. 31 RN warships, in a few years time this number may represent the total RN surface fleet. Donk

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giblets RE:Another Anniversary 6/27/2005 8:02:08 AM

I wonder if there will be as good as celebrations for the 65th anniversay of another English defeat of the French navy on the 3rd of July...

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french stratege RE:Another Anniversary 6/27/2005 12:23:05 PM

Giblet: I wonder if we could take advantage of Trafalgar 200 to sink the whole small UK navy to avenge your treachery attack on Mers El Kebir (my grand father was grively wounded there on Bretagne) We have 1297 dead so half US in Pearl harbor except we were attacked without warning by an ally.So worst than Japaneses. Our fleet was badly trapped and when admiral Gensoul understood that British would fire it was too late to put ourselve in battle position successfully. It is sad Gensoul did not realise this earlier to put ourselve in battle position against Sommerville H force. It was dishonourable to obey to UK orders while we have given our word of honour our fleet will not be used against UK. link Sad day for Ad Gensoul who was an englophile and who has to fight agaisnt UK officers he knows personnaly as friends like Holland and Sommerville. Monstrous betrayal nothing justify. Avenge that ! Sink UK fleet during Trafalgar 200!

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Lawman french stratege 6/27/2005 12:36:55 PM

"I wonder if we could take advantage of Trafalgar 200 to sink the whole small UK navy to avenge your treachery attack on Mers El Kebir" The French fleet there was a potentially major threat to the UK and allied force - the fact that they did not come over to fight as Free-French forced the British action. "It was dishonourable to obey to UK orders while we have given our word of honour our fleet will not be used against UK." The 'word of honour' meant nothing, the concern was that the ships would be used by the Germans, NOT that Gensoul was going to become Hitler's favourite Admiral! The simple truth is that captured equipment was used quite widely by the Germans - look at the number of Czech tanks they used!

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Donkey FS 6/27/2005 12:46:31 PM

FS I don?t really want to get into a heated discussion with you over this, though I?m sure that others may well, but Mers El Kebir need not have happened, all Admiral Gensoul had to do was scuttle his ships or turn them over to the RN. Petains assurances meant nothing, the Germans used your tanks, your newly completed submarine pens. While I don?t doubt that Admiral Gensoul was a decent honourable man, not all of the French high command were, many were pro German. Given the balance of power in the med at the time, Admiral?s Cunningham & Somerville had little choice to take the actions that they did. Now before answering please try to put yourself in their shoes, if you had to make the decision regarding Mers El Kebir, would you have risked the Germans getting their hands on the French Fleet. As for your Grandfather, hope that he survived his wounds, mine did, he served in North Africa & was wounded by Vichy forces. Donk

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french stratege RE:french stratege 6/27/2005 12:48:51 PM

History has shown there was no risk: French respect their word of honour when they gave it. Even with Mers El Kebir we sank our fleet, when German tried to take it in 43. A crime and a odious betrayal.Nothing more.

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french stratege RE:Trafalgar 200/IFOS 6/27/2005 1:03:31 PM

Donkey : my grand father survided but handicaped for life for its left arm and was dumb for more than 80%.A 380 shell makes big noise for sure when you are close.It even doesn't seem he got any hatred for British after that .In fact he avoided to speak about this event all its life.But it not an excuse for British. Mers El Kebir is a spot on your flag.Nothing more. French would not have done that in the same way but would have asked garantees like having inspectors or something like that.You have deserved Perfidious Albion name like that unless Nelson which did gallant fight. They was no risk our fleet in our free zone could be taken by German. Nothing similar of war seizures German have done in occupied zone like tanks or planes.

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