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Subject: The consequences of a successful Gallipoli campaign?
Caesar Maximus    6/22/2005 11:21:44 PM
Inspired by a related thread, imagine the consequences of a defeated Turkey after Gallipoli, and a Constantinople returned to Greek rule. Just how far would the Greeks, with allied help, been able to push back the Turks, and reclaim the 'East Roman Empire'? Implications for middle east politics are staggering.
 
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Caesar Maximus    To GrandTurk   10/3/2005 8:38:55 PM
It is generally accepted (except in Turkey) that 1.6million Armenians died as a result of a systematic effort by the Turks. Are you trying to suggest that over 6million Turkish civilians died as a result of Armenian actions? That is simply incorrect. The Allies should've renewed the war in support of the Greeks after WWI, and kicked the Turks back into central asia. Return the city of Constantinople to its proper, Christian owners. Instead it was allowed to remain, depsite being militarily impotent (vis a vis the Great Powers of Europe). Turkey was very lucky to have survived at all.
 
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Pars    RE:To Caesar   10/4/2005 7:30:06 PM
It is generally accepted (in everywhere) that the Armenian-Turkish war during WW1 started by Armenians. That war was very bloody. And yes lots of civilians died from both sides. According to official documents about 500,000 Armenians and 500,000 Turks died duirng it. Armenians attacks indirectly resulted in Turkish front collapse against Russian attacks at East Anatolia. In no definition of Genocide; you can say it happened when both sides lost about the same numner of people. In WW1, it was the Allies who won the war. They opened cases against Ottoman officials for the war crimes against Armenian population. Only a very few of them found quilty. Today after 90 years later, the question again rises because of political reasons none other. Ottoman archives are open for every researcher. Turkey officially announce that they are open for any international historian group to research the subject.
 
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