Stealthy Black Hawk doomed by vortex and high walls:
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 This is settling with power.

 

h**p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsDSvcEDCgg

I know what settling with power is and am familiar with aspects of this..  My curiosity is piqued due to the fact that the media noise has been about walls and temperature,

they're been practicing in a purpose built facsimile site for months and months, part of the training for assisting assaulters would have included condition events. ambient conditions are known so its not going to be a "surprise"

again, I think part of the puzzle is missing (and I'm not really trying to draw it out as beyond being successful, the rest is academic.)

as I prev stated with the team numbers initially provided, force disposition and the loggies issues, this also does not gel with what I'd expect.  There's another vector missing ...

but, its academic, and all I care about ultimately is "job well done"

 

 

It makes sense when I work it through my head. Closed in walls that are high would cause the downward air flow to be pushed back up through the rotor system and help aggregate the vortex ring state. As for the higher temperatures, that would cause the rotor system to use more engine power. If the pilot was not ready for that demand to be placed on the rotor system, he might have pulled on the collective and caused the situation to occur.

 

Even if he didn't, having that much of a temperature change would have required a lot more torque since those 60s were carrying 12 man teams. Being that hot and heavy only makes settling with power more likely to occur.

also these weren't dap conversions, it looks like they were armed with dillons.

the body mods are adding additonal weight, add in 12 man teams, add in the dillon gunners.

a normal section loadout for a BH is 10, full packed, so  12 means light and in and out.

they're still operating within safety margins though... 

AHOY,

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