Come on, there is no techical definition of "Rear Echelon Mother F*****".

 

It is just a comical phrase created by front line combat soldiers to make them feel more of an elite cadre, and so make them feel better at having a rougher time compared to other elements of the army.

 

I would feel a lot safer personally being infantry on a foot patrol in some foreign land than being a truck driver, especially in todays conflicts.

 

Back to the topic question, what special operations group is the best. The answer is: none of us on this site, outside of a few in the SOF community, have >any idea< who the best is at all. All of us outsiders have to go on is patriotism, bias, and a few of the older declassified missions. For example, most of us on this site say "SAS are the best" or "SEALs are the best", but they have never heard of Say'ret Matkal, Flottilla 13, or Italian KOMSUBIN, all of which are highly proffesional. Most of the guys in the SOF community respect the heck out of each other, and don't really care about what we think (they aren't in it for fame). SOF groups are constantly doing operations that we have no idea about, as they are classified. We occasionally find out about operations as they become declassified (for example: Robert's Ridge, TF 21' capture of Saddam, etc), but the success or failure of that one declassified operation doesn't mean anything about the unit's ability to do it's job. Almost all of the succesful operations are classified, and most of the operations that we hear about are failures (basically, we never hear about any of the successes, but we hear alot of the failures). SOF units get the job done, and that's that.

 

One thing that I get tired of on this forum is all of the uneducated responses. For example, in this thread alone, I have seen the following:

 

"Spetsnaz are the best". Ok, every "special" Russian unit is considered Spetsnaz...even a local police SWAT team (you certainly don't think that the Siberian PD SWAT team is on the same level as CAG do you?). If you somehow think that Spetsnaz is the best group in SOF, then at least list what section (Spetsnaz Alpha, etc).

 

"SEALs [are the best]". Uh, so they are the best at every skill set in the Special Operations spectrum? No, they are primarily combat swimmers, so they probably aren't going to be as good at room clearing as CT units like CAG, SAS, GIGN, GSG-9, etc. I should also point out that ST6 is considered a Tier 1 force, so the SEALs in ST6 are probably better than your average SEAL.

 

"Indian special forces - they will kill anything that moves". LOL, that means that they are probably the worst special forces group, considering how most people don't like to get killed and most relatives don't like it when their family gets killed by foreign soldiers (hearts and minds).

 

"I think Sri Lankan special forces are one of the best counter terror and geurilla forces out there" ??? I might buy the geurilla part, considering how they have been fighting against the Tamil Tigers for years, but they are one of the best counter terror forces out there? I highly doubt it (trying not to be rude)...considering how room clearing, DA, and hostage rescue is a large part of the CT skill set. I would be very suprised if they even had a kill house, and if they did, I would be very suprised if they 'utilized it effectively' (I make A's in English ).

 

"SEALs take Ninjitsu [recently deleted]". No, they take elements of MT, BJJ, KM, Knife fighting techniques, and various methods of using your rifle as a baseball bat and combine it into their program (CQD).

 

That pretty much concludes everything I have to say regarding this...and hopefully we never have any kind of topic like this again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Like Mough said -- yes.  But you would not be competitive for the best paying jobs.  Of course, even the second and third best paying jobs pay pretty damn well.  For that matter, I've heard KBR is paying around USD $100K/year for guys to drive trucks and bulldozers over there, but I digress. 

There may be an inside-track, "it's all who you know" sort of issue, but I've served with or met a number of support guys in SF units who've gone on to making very big bucks in the private sector with pretty mild resumes compared to your average mid-career operator from the SAS/SEALs/SF/etc.  From what I hear, a lot of guys they've worked with often have strictly conventional light infantry or other combat arms backgrounds (or civilian law enforcement, or reservists with a mix of both).  The massive expansion of the private military corporation industry in the last few years has opened up a lot of jobs to guys who aren't career SOF types.

ITs  the gurkas  or the KIWI SAS

It's a well known fact by many nations that the British special forces are the best and that's why they call upon the SAS to do the jobs that they can't do.The Australian SAS are good because they are trained by the British but they aren't as good as the British SAS and that's a fact,The US Navy Seals know that the British have the best special forces and they respect that and the Russian SPETSNAZ fear the British SAS and SBS.

 

Most of us believe SF & Commando from certain countries is better not because of successful mission but more on publicity. And not all SF and Commando specialized in everythings. They are specilized in some area or technique and depend on terrain of their country.

US SF or Commando maybe well trained but they still lack in certain part. Same to SF & Commando from other countries.

 

Technique while in desert, jungle, mountain, sea, swamp, urban area is different and i doubt a commando can specialized in all terrain.

 

just for example, can Green Beret survive when operating in Thailand or Malaysia jungle?  Assuming US invaded one of this country and fight 1 to 1.