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Subject: FBI HRT in Iraq and Afghanistan?
GOP    8/3/2007 2:49:09 AM
Whatsup guys? I have read in several books that FBI HRT has been to Iraq and A'stan and have served with several US SOF units, the most notable being CAG. Do these guys basically observe CAG or do they actually put guns in the fight? Typically, what would they be observing? CAG's CQB techniques? Infil/Exfil techniques? Any idea how long of a tour they serve? Also, how common is it for Law enforcement special tactics units to train with military SOF units?
 
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longrifle       8/3/2007 3:27:57 AM
This is just a guess.  Perhaps they aren't working with the militaries of those nations, or in a military role per se. 
 
Just as we have the U.S. military working with the Iraqi and Afghan militaries might we not have federal U.S. law enforcement agencies, likely the FBI, working with Iraqi and Afghan law enforcement agencies?
 
I don't know, but it seems logical.  We know the DEA has worked with LE agencies throughout Central and South America.
 
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longrifle       8/3/2007 3:40:39 AM
Some quotes:
 
"Military action and law enforcement and intelligence activities in Afghanistan continue to uncover documents and information about Al-Qaeda. This information comes to the United States for further processing and analysis by the combined expertise of several agencies. The results are then disseminated and acted upon." - Dale L. Watson, FBI Executive Assistant Director.
 
"One of the new steps we're taking is the creation of the National Security Service within the FBI, to more completely integrate the Bureau's work with the intelligence community. The purpose of this change is to strengthen the FBI, so it not only investigates terrorist crimes after they happen, but the FBI can be more capable to stop the terrorist acts before they happen. The FBI is in the fight. The FBI has deployed its personnel across the world, in Iraq and Afghanistan and other fronts in the war on terror. FBI agents are questioning captured terrorists and uncovering information that will help prevent new attacks on our homeland." - President George W. Bush
 
The FBI varies its presence according to requirements in its hunt for al-Qaeda suspects, with the total number deployed anywhere between 50 and 100. It has at least three active cells, in Peshawar, on the border of the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), where many al-Qaeda are known to hide, in the volatile port city of Karachi and in the capital Islamabad. - Asia Times, October 4, 2003
 
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Camsell       8/3/2007 5:07:23 AM

Whatsup guys? I have read in several books that FBI HRT has been to Iraq and A'stan and have served with several US SOF units, the most notable being CAG. Do these guys basically observe CAG or do they actually put guns in the fight? Typically, what would they be observing? CAG's CQB techniques? Infil/Exfil techniques? Any idea how long of a tour they serve?

Also, how common is it for Law enforcement special tactics units to train with military SOF units?
Yeah I read that aswell, I think the question is: Why are the HRT over there???
And are CAG that incompetant that they need watching over??? I mean, surley the techniques would be pretty much the same as there mostly retired Ex-Military men!!! The mind wounders.
 
I would say they wouldn`t do tours? Like most black ops teams, they`d live, eat, sleep over in rouge countrys awaiting orders.

 
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GOP       8/4/2007 12:51:53 AM
Longrifle, that makes alot of sense. I never thought about that. Maybe they are training the Iraqi and Afghani SWAT units?
 
Cactus, I guarantee you that they aren't their to "watch over" CAG. If you look at HRT's history, they were designed to mimick CAG, only in a law enforcement role. So the two units have a long history together and train often together. If they are with CAG like the books say, then it's probably more of a "let's see how these guys do it" kind of thing, or they may be doing similar missions as CAG since they are sort of (in a small way) sister units. But what Longrifle says makes more sense to me.
 
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GOP       8/4/2007 12:52:55 AM
Sorry Camsell, I obviously wrote the wrong name in my last post. I was referring to you not "cactus" (don't know where I got that name).
 
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J       8/4/2007 1:55:08 AM
I don't know about HRT but the US Marshals have had guys in Iraq training their Iraqi counterparts.> src="http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8015/kirkukcourthouseuz8.jpg"/>
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J       8/4/2007 1:56:42 AM
^ I guess my attempt at posting images here has failed. :(
 
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ChdNorm       8/4/2007 5:14:31 AM
The FBI maintains specialized response teams made up of agents regularly assigned to the field offices. These teams can be and are dispatched overseas whenever there is a need for their specialized areas of expertise. Generally speaking, they're primarily made up of various evidence and lab techs. Each FBI field office maintains a SWAT team, and those teams are regularly tapped to provide security when a response team is dispatched overseas into a high risk environment.
 
It's not uncommon to see the teams from the field offices referred to as HRT, even though I think technically that refers only to the Bureau wide full time team out of Quantico. Might it be one of these teams from the field offices being mistakenly identified as HRT while accompanying an ERT in the area?
 
That's my SWAG anyway.
 
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ChdNorm       8/4/2007 5:25:39 AM
And my second though on the matter .... I don't think US military personnel are able to legally serve a fugitive warrant issued out of a US district court. It might be a case of having a limited number of US federal agents on hand in order to process any AQ guys they run across that may have outstanding wants or warrants in the US.
 
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Camsell    GOP   8/4/2007 5:53:33 AM
   Cheers for the reply buddy. Yeah checked it out your right.
 
But as for another reply  in the matter of Warrants, I know that they can issue international warrants for arrest, providing the authorities of that country will take on the matter and hand over the suspects to that particular country who`s issued it.
 
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