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Subject: Who is SWAT??
Surefire    8/2/2007 8:37:57 AM
These guy are nonses, They couldn`t even deal with the WACO siege LOL 300 swat members 125 injured and a whole lot of civilian casualties LOL....Bunch of loser`s if you ask me.. As for GOP he chats S%*t you wouldn`t advertise yourself as being in any SF Unit let alone admit to being in p/time SWAT. I'd keep that one to myself.
 
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the British Lion       8/2/2007 10:49:20 AM
Where the hell did you get those figures from? 4 dead, less than 30 wounded. And they were ATF agents numb nuts, not SWAT.
 
Watch yourself mate, or you're gonna get banned.
 
B.L.
 
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GOP       8/2/2007 2:16:38 PM
Well it's obvious you are about 10 years old and are trying to stir up trouble. Anyway, your facts are way off...in every post. You have alot to learn about how things really work, but I highly doubt you will ever understand these concepts.
 
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GOP       8/2/2007 2:24:30 PM

Where the hell did you get those figures from? 4 dead, less than 30 wounded. And they were ATF agents numb nuts, not SWAT.

 

Watch yourself mate, or you're gonna get banned.

 

B.L.


Actually I believe one ATF agent on the SRT team was killed (or maybe severly injured?) when they tried to make entry through the window. The bottom line on Waco is that it would nearly take the 75th rangers to clear that place, they were armed to the teeth and they had alot of people in there willing to fight to the death. When you get that many nutcases in a large building with fully automatic weapons it becomes extremely difficult to make entry.

 
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smitty237       8/4/2007 12:59:03 PM

These guy are nonses, They couldn`t even deal with the WACO siege LOL

300 swat members 125 injured and a whole lot of civilian casualties LOL....Bunch of loser`s if you ask me.. As for GOP he chats S%*t you wouldn`t advertise yourself as being in any SF Unit let alone admit to being in p/time SWAT.

I'd keep that one to myself.
If you're going to make some ignorant, ill informed rant, at least run spell check and proof read it first before posting it. 

 
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static       8/5/2007 12:30:15 AM
Waco was ATF followed by HRT with some rumors of CAG "advisors" on-site, though it seems unlikely since one of the HRT guys said he was questioned by one of his CAG buddies as to what happened sometime afterwards, if memory serves.
 
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the British Lion       8/5/2007 10:22:44 AM




Where the hell did you get those figures from? 4 dead, less than 30 wounded. And they were ATF agents numb nuts, not SWAT.



 



Watch yourself mate, or you're gonna get banned.



 



B.L.




Actually I believe one ATF agent on the SRT team was killed (or maybe severly injured?) when they tried to make entry through the window. The bottom line on Waco is that it would nearly take the 75th rangers to clear that place, they were armed to the teeth and they had alot of people in there willing to fight to the death. When you get that many nutcases in a large building with fully automatic weapons it becomes extremely difficult to make entry.



I'm pretty sure 4 ATF agents were killed in the first (was meant to be supprise but wasn't) assault before the siege really began. Once the siege was in place however, I don't think any more were killed.
I'll look for a source, but I think that's right.
 
But your right about it needing frickin' comandos to take that place... It was like bloody Monte Cassino.
 
B.L.
 
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ChrisWI       8/26/2007 3:45:47 PM
The BATF has their own SWAT type unit called the Special Response Team (SRT) made up of agents who volunteer from their individual field offices.

I am not sure of the agents killed/wounded at Waco were SRT or the local field office's agents or a mix of both. Perhaps somebody else knows.
 
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theBird       8/28/2007 5:44:20 PM
I belive for BATF agents were killed at waco.  Probably would've been a better idea forget the idea going into the compound for Khorish all together and just bear-maced him and taken him down DOG-the-bountyhunter style while he was out jogging.
 
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GOP       8/28/2007 6:37:58 PM

I belive for BATF agents were killed at waco.  Probably would've been a better idea forget the idea going into the compound for Khorish all together and just bear-maced him and taken him down DOG-the-bountyhunter style while he was out jogging.


They had illegal weapons and such, the compound had to be taken down. Also, the guy almost never left the compound, so you cant "take him down DOG-the-bountyhunter style" when he is inside the compound.
 
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stbretnco       8/28/2007 11:09:51 PM
Koresh was fairly routinely seen outside the compound jogging. It would have been fairly easy to arrest him without the seige.
 
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