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Subject: from the horse's mouth
bob the brit    1/3/2007 12:37:49 AM
alright this should these numerous pecker competitions. Fact: every spec operator, upon entry, is informed that they are now a member of the finest fighting unit in the world (as i noted in a previous thread, it wouldn't be too good for troop morale if you were told otherwise) Fact: you are NOT told that you are the best at everything militarily, just what your skill is, either specialised or standard. Fact (well sensible opinion lets say): there is no such thing as one unit teaching every other spec unit in the world to do something, it's more a reciprocal SWAP!!! of information (eg. SBS showcases their proven way of successfully exfil'ing a sub-launched underwater delivery vessel and reconning & securing a beach to the SEALs and the SEALs showcase their method. what then often happens is a new method is created taking the finer points of each units' method. (NOTE: this is just an example, don't argue over it, that would be silly). Fact: when in the company of another spec unit, operators don't usually boast about being better than the other, if they do, they're f**king around and having a laugh (suprisingly on a much more mature level than many of the pecker contest threads on this site) allied special forces respect one another, if they didn't they likely would have been weeded out during the first week or so of selection/training. special forces don't need gung ho james bond types, you wouldn't believe how many turn up at the breacons in wales (which takes me to my next point)... you cannot say one selection process is harder than another by using initial numbers compared to final acceptance... why? because there is never any telling how many silly little maggots want to join a spec unit because they saw the embassy seige on BBC and think they're the next james bond. secondly, saying things like "SAS selection is tougher than BUD/S" is childish no matter how hard your mate Dave said the Pen Y Fan was. BUD/S and SAS selc' are too different in so many ways. I likely would have failed BUD/S all the underwater training would have done me right in (i have a minute fear of water) however, swimming lengths in BT, then swimming rivers in wales, and a small amount of underwater testing was my cup of tea, i handled it fine. so don't bicker about which selections are tougher, 'cause unless you try them all, you don't have a f**king clue. Fact (don't take this as a spark for arguement): for just about all of the major counter terrorist ops atleast one SAS operator has been present, but here's the real truth, they haven't told the spec unit involved how to run things, they've advised or absorbed (they see how the operation runs, take the info back to HQ, look at the pros and cons, discect the details and outcome... why? to learn from it), the Reg' will be one of the first spec units you'll find saying there are always things they can improve on and they always look for better ways of doing things.. i'm quite positive that all spec units have this attitude. p.s. too all of you in specific who say that the SAS is the best and better than any other unit in the world, you know who you are, STOP IT, A.) it's not appreciated, B.) if you're british, then it is very un-british of you, and C.) you don't have a bloody clue and you don't know what the SAS is all about p.s.s. to all those who read my dribble to the end, thank you, i hope (if you are not already mature enough to find these pecker comp's silly) you have absorbed a bit of what i have said.
 
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GOP       1/4/2007 11:44:47 PM
LOL, it won't take the SEALs that long...ST6 is probably already on route ....just joking obviously.
 
 
 
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bob the brit       1/5/2007 12:00:00 AM

LOL, it won't take the SEALs that long...ST6 is probably already on route ....just joking obviously.

 

 



bugger!... say you like foster grants and you're suddenly a terrorist (somethings gotta be done about that US foreign policy)... besides, what happened to the good ol' days with the sunshine boys and the aviators?
guess i had best batten down the hatches and get the fake glasses and moustache out the back pocket (never know when you'll need it) hang on a minute, i'm not close enough to a significantly sized body of water, they'll be sending delta instead. good i've got 'till march                                                                                                                              
 
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Old Grunt       1/5/2007 1:25:13 PM
Actually Delta has already located, surveilled, and executed you.  There just so super secret that you won't realize it for at least six months.  If I were you I'd live it up while you still can!!
 
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bob the brit       1/5/2007 9:25:15 PM
that bloody beckwith ( rest in peace mate), just had to love us Reggie's so much that he buggered off home and made his own
 
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DropBear    bob the brit   1/6/2007 1:14:22 AM
anyway, gf0012-aust, what happened with the whole NorForce thing?
 
Can't speak for gf, however...
 
 
At the height of WW2, Australia was all but invaded and occupied by the Japanese. Among those who stood ready as part of a combined force to repel this invasion was the North Australia Observer Unit (NAOU), whose task was to observe, report and then to remain behind and report the enemy's movements and strengths. The NAOU operated throughout a vast expanse of some of the most inhospitable land and water on earth. From barren desert to impenetrable mangrove swamps and mudflats, treacherous coral reefs and submerged rocks, with daytime temperatures which can reach 50° C. Deadly snakes, spiders and scorpions, mosquitos and sandflies, feral pigs and cattle, wild water buffalo with sweeping horns to gore a person to death. Six metre saltwater crocodiles patrolling their territory, with powerful jaws to tear a person or boat to pieces. This is North West Australia: 1.8 million square kilometres of largely uninhabited country, a quarter of the continent -Australia's Front Door. The geography and climate of North West Australia has changed little since the NAOU existed, and its remoteness and isolation make it vulnerable still. For the last two decades the North West Mobile Force (NORFORCE) has patrolled this Area of Operations, securing the approaches to some of Australia's most vital assets and significant industrial infrastructure. In the footsteps of the wartime observer unit, NORFORCE patrolmen now serve as vedettes -a reconnaissance and surveillance force to watch for and warn of incursions or suspicious activity in northern Australia. A potent mix of full-time and part- time soldiers, with a significant Aboriginal representation, today NORFORCE remains EVER VIGILANT throughout the harshest and most dangerous terrain imaginable.
 
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gf0012-aust       1/6/2007 1:43:03 AM
 
Up until very recently, every NorForce unit leader was an SAS officer.
 
The Ranger ref is about NorForce having to become dentists for a day on a training ex.
 
BtB, I was attempting to work out how old you were.  If you were in the age range you might have heard about it. 
 
So, as you're unfamiliar. NFC.
 
 
 
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mough       1/6/2007 3:25:03 AM
Bob, what year did you SFS, we might know some of the same lads
 
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bob the brit       1/6/2007 5:19:01 PM

 

Up until very recently, every NorForce unit leader was an SAS officer.

 

The Ranger ref is about NorForce having to become dentists for a day on a training ex.

 

BtB, I was attempting to work out how old you were.  If you were in the age range you might have heard about it. 

 

So, as you're unfamiliar. NFC.

 

 


would that be SASR officers or 22nd officers? (would make more sense to me for SASR head shed to lead aussie aboriginal units) i never made officer, always and forever NCO
 
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bob the brit       1/6/2007 5:24:58 PM

Bob, what year did you SFS, we might know some of the same lads


'77 mough, you?
 
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bob the brit       1/6/2007 10:51:39 PM
summer selec' by the way mough, what about you?
 
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