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Subject: from the horse's mouth
bob the brit    1/3/2007 12:37:49 AM
alright this should these numerous pecker competitions. Fact: every spec operator, upon entry, is informed that they are now a member of the finest fighting unit in the world (as i noted in a previous thread, it wouldn't be too good for troop morale if you were told otherwise) Fact: you are NOT told that you are the best at everything militarily, just what your skill is, either specialised or standard. Fact (well sensible opinion lets say): there is no such thing as one unit teaching every other spec unit in the world to do something, it's more a reciprocal SWAP!!! of information (eg. SBS showcases their proven way of successfully exfil'ing a sub-launched underwater delivery vessel and reconning & securing a beach to the SEALs and the SEALs showcase their method. what then often happens is a new method is created taking the finer points of each units' method. (NOTE: this is just an example, don't argue over it, that would be silly). Fact: when in the company of another spec unit, operators don't usually boast about being better than the other, if they do, they're f**king around and having a laugh (suprisingly on a much more mature level than many of the pecker contest threads on this site) allied special forces respect one another, if they didn't they likely would have been weeded out during the first week or so of selection/training. special forces don't need gung ho james bond types, you wouldn't believe how many turn up at the breacons in wales (which takes me to my next point)... you cannot say one selection process is harder than another by using initial numbers compared to final acceptance... why? because there is never any telling how many silly little maggots want to join a spec unit because they saw the embassy seige on BBC and think they're the next james bond. secondly, saying things like "SAS selection is tougher than BUD/S" is childish no matter how hard your mate Dave said the Pen Y Fan was. BUD/S and SAS selc' are too different in so many ways. I likely would have failed BUD/S all the underwater training would have done me right in (i have a minute fear of water) however, swimming lengths in BT, then swimming rivers in wales, and a small amount of underwater testing was my cup of tea, i handled it fine. so don't bicker about which selections are tougher, 'cause unless you try them all, you don't have a f**king clue. Fact (don't take this as a spark for arguement): for just about all of the major counter terrorist ops atleast one SAS operator has been present, but here's the real truth, they haven't told the spec unit involved how to run things, they've advised or absorbed (they see how the operation runs, take the info back to HQ, look at the pros and cons, discect the details and outcome... why? to learn from it), the Reg' will be one of the first spec units you'll find saying there are always things they can improve on and they always look for better ways of doing things.. i'm quite positive that all spec units have this attitude. p.s. too all of you in specific who say that the SAS is the best and better than any other unit in the world, you know who you are, STOP IT, A.) it's not appreciated, B.) if you're british, then it is very un-british of you, and C.) you don't have a bloody clue and you don't know what the SAS is all about p.s.s. to all those who read my dribble to the end, thank you, i hope (if you are not already mature enough to find these pecker comp's silly) you have absorbed a bit of what i have said.
 
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DropBear       1/4/2007 1:46:04 AM
rangers vs. sasr? well being my aussie bruv's in arms, sasr for sure, just kidding obviously
 

Of course it would be the SASR. Who have better looking battle dress uniforms, eh?
 
The best cut and finish. That is what makes the best specwarriors. Not lousy skills and abilites. You just can't top a sand coloured beret. Swanky!
 
 
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Old Grunt       1/4/2007 11:23:19 AM
Biggest watch with the most features and the coolest sunglasses are the true determiners of SOF abilities.
 
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stbretnco       1/4/2007 11:30:15 AM
OG,

I thought it was the biggest budget, best hollywood spinmeisters, and best per diem rates that made the best SOF?

 
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bob the brit       1/4/2007 9:36:00 PM




rangers vs. sasr? well being my aussie bruv's in arms, sasr for sure, just kidding obviously





ex SAS?  , so you're familiar with the Ranger extract by NorForce a few years back?......

can't say i am... fill me in
 
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GOP       1/4/2007 9:49:08 PM

OG,

I thought it was the biggest budget, best hollywood spinmeisters, and best per diem rates that made the best SOF?



Yall have forgotten 2 key things: Big GUNNZZZZ baby and a awesome Camelback. You gotta have big muscles to be a good operator...so let's put it together....The operator with:
 
The big gunz
The $500 sunglasses
The Big watch with all the features
The coolest Camelback
 
Is obviously the best operator.
 
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bob the brit       1/4/2007 10:06:14 PM
actually the best spec operator wears a long rubber nose and a white bandana with red letters on it (i seriously doubt anyone will get that one... sorry)
 
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bob the brit       1/4/2007 10:24:47 PM
anyway, gf0012-aust, what happened with the whole NorForce thing?
 
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bob the brit       1/4/2007 11:18:15 PM



OG,

I thought it was the biggest budget, best hollywood spinmeisters, and best per diem rates that made the best SOF?




Yall have forgotten 2 key things: Big GUNNZZZZ baby and a awesome Camelback. You gotta have big muscles to be a good operator...so let's put it together....The operator with:

 

The big gunz

The $500 sunglasses

The Big watch with all the features

The coolest Camelback

 

Is obviously the best operator.


no no no, it's all wrong... first: no need for the big guns, basic Reg' rule, the bigger the gun-the more stoppages you'll get, second: no need for $500 shades... they just have to be foggy fosters (foster grants), third: forget the watch, use the sun and stars, forthly: bugger the camelback (i never had the luxury) stick to the canteen
 
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GOP       1/4/2007 11:27:00 PM






OG,

I thought it was the biggest budget, best hollywood spinmeisters, and best per diem rates that made the best SOF?






Yall have forgotten 2 key things: Big GUNNZZZZ baby and a awesome Camelback. You gotta have big muscles to be a good operator...so let's put it together....The operator with:



 



The big gunz



The $500 sunglasses



The Big watch with all the features



The coolest Camelback



 



Is obviously the best operator.




no no no, it's all wrong... first: no need for the big guns, basic Reg' rule, the bigger the gun-the more stoppages you'll get, second: no need for $500 shades... they just have to be foggy fosters (foster grants), third: forget the watch, use the sun and stars, forthly: bugger the camelback (i never had the luxury) stick to the canteen


 It's official, the SAS has lost it's edge. You have just disgraced the 22nd SAS with your obvious lack of knowledge of what it takes to be a good operator...you better fear for your life, you know that the SAS does all of those super-secret agent James Bond types of things, right?
Your unit just better hope that they don't face any SEALs, because not only do they have the big gunzzz, $500 shades, big ticker/watch, the coolest camelback...but they also have sharks with freakin' laser beams and biggER pe...well, you know...
 
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bob the brit       1/4/2007 11:41:06 PM
not in unit anymore should make it easier for those SEALs, i'm in ontario canada right now (that should give 'em a head start), the Reg' are the originals, they made SF look sexy, no not in a james bond way, and we never did james bond stuff, always left that to the green jackets (basic infantry), did do "secret" op's though. anyway like i said, once you don the long nose and white bandana, you're the man
p.s. if i stop posting, you'll them SEALs nabbed me... so i should have until next wednesday atleast, (just teasin' kid) 
 
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