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gf0012-aust    6/12/2006 9:57:35 PM
thought you might be interested in an Oz version of how Operation Anaconda went down. the book is primarily about one of the Oz SAS operators attached who won a Medal of Gallantry and was recommended by US commanders for a Bronze Star (Aust govt still haven't made up their mind as to whether he can get a foreign gong yet - 3 years later!) Anyway, enjoy: 18 Hours - The true story of an SAS war hero ISBN 0-7322-8230-6 also just finished: Killer Elite - Michael Smith which gives the "correct name" for "Grey Wolf" etc... I found some historical/factual errors in fact within the body of the book, so I'm curious if others have read it and found the same probs(?)
 
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The Lizard King    video for GOP   6/13/2006 12:57:09 PM
Dateline did a pretty good piece on "Rescue on Roberts Ridge". http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13233811/
 
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GOP    RE:books for GOP   6/23/2006 6:46:18 PM
Thanks alot for the recommendations, gf0012. I am looking for all info on that particular operation (Operation Anaconda, of course), and I'll definitely be looking into it because I have alot of interest in the Australian SAS. The SAS-R seems to be extremely well-trained...I read a story about them in the book "One Perfect Op" by Dennis Chalker (who was a former SEAL serving in DEVGRU and RED CELL). Dennis Chalker and another DEVGRU operator were on a exchange program with the SAS-R and one of the exercises they were in was a airline hijacking. The two DEVGRU guys (along with 2 SASR guys) were playing the hijackers and the SASR were the entry team. As the "Hijackers" continued to ramp up aggression, the SASR made their move. Dennis Chalker (The DEVGRU operator) said the entry team was so effecient that the "Hijackers" didn't have a chance to even get any quality shots in. It was over very quickly and the SASR obviously won.
 
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gf0012-aust    RE:books for GOP   6/23/2006 8:49:14 PM
Just as an aside re their airline hijacking programme. when they first started training they couldn't get a spare Jumbo jet for regular training - so they made one themselves. to all intents and purposes it looked like a real jumbo jet from the outside - but the entire thing was fabricated out of sheet metal from scratch. they have real ones to play with now - and a variety of airframes to practice on, but the early days were a bit tough in getting the right tools and gear.
 
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GOP    RE:books for GOP   6/23/2006 9:33:43 PM
>>Just as an aside re their airline hijacking programme. when they first started training they couldn't get a spare Jumbo jet for regular training - so they made one themselves. to all intents and purposes it looked like a real jumbo jet from the outside - but the entire thing was fabricated out of sheet metal from scratch. they have real ones to play with now - and a variety of airframes to practice on, but the early days were a bit tough in getting the right tools and gear.<< I wonder why? In the US, Delta Airlines was extremely happy to lend CAG and DEVGRU some Jets to practice on, because it helps the entire airline community with better safety against the terrorist threat. Despite having a rough time with the airliner, it seems that the SASR did a dang good job anyway.
 
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gf0012-aust    RE:books for GOP   6/23/2006 9:55:02 PM
"I wonder why? In the US, Delta Airlines was extremely happy to lend CAG and DEVGRU some Jets to practice on, because it helps the entire airline community with better safety against the terrorist threat." this was the very early days just after the Libyans hijacked the 5 airliners and did their "grand exhibition". At that time Qantas just didn't have a spare frame. It was a problem for other specops operators as well, as I know that the US and UK used to bring people out to play on it in the early years.
 
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GOP    RE:books for GOP   6/23/2006 10:20:28 PM
>>this was the very early days just after the Libyans hijacked the 5 airliners and did their "grand exhibition". At that time Qantas just didn't have a spare frame. It was a problem for other specops operators as well, as I know that the US and UK used to bring people out to play on it in the early years.<< Was this before or after CAG was operational? I don't really know when the Libyan terrorist group did that, so I am curious if CAG or the SEALs went out to Australia to train on the airframe.
 
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gf0012-aust    RE:books for GOP   6/23/2006 10:59:50 PM
"Was this before or after CAG was operational?" before. The old ST6 were "guests"
 
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