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Subject: Navy SEALs vs CAG vs SF vs Devgru vs AFSOC vs SAS vs SBS vs GSG9 vs GIGN
GOP    5/18/2006 12:08:29 AM
Who wins??? I go with NAVY SEALS! Alright, time to end all of this SOF vs SOF garbage. Basic rules: Rule 1: SOF combat divers cannot be compared with SOF CT, etc. Statements such as Navy SEALs vs SAS are impossible to compare. You must at least be comparing similar units to have a true comparison in training. Rule 2: SOF units are made up of people, which are all different and have different skill levels. SOF units are impossible to compare because each small team in a particular unit has different people which make up that small team. If we follow rule 1, and compare SOF CT Teams, then CAG may have a better small team than the SAS...and vice versa. It all varies when dealing with people. Rule 3: It is impossible for people out of the loop (ie: Civilians like me, Active or former regular military, etc) to compare current SOF units without relying on both old information, possible biased information, or just plain wrong information. Rule 4: Post like "Navy SEALs vs British SAS" will NEVER yield any conclusive evidence and will NEVER yield anything productive. Rule 5: NEVER COMPARE SOF UNITS! BOTTOM LINE. ---------------------------------------------
 
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dirtykraut       1/3/2008 2:09:32 PM




The SAS and SBS are my favorites to win because they are both trained in similar ways and both are also trained to do what other special forces wouldn't even dream of doing.The US Navy Seals and the SAS are easy to compare.....ready for it,the SAS would obviously kick their ass.





Have the best combat record, along with SAS! SF, had trouble in Nam etc.

No, SF didn't have trouble in nam. They, along with SEALS, LRRPs, SOG etc performed superbly. In fact, SOG teams were some of the finest in the business, past and present. Their incursions into Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam were probably the most difficult and dangerous work ever undertaken by any SOF unit.
 
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dirtykraut       1/3/2008 2:10:40 PM
Just to correct my last post, North Vietnam.
 
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GOP       1/4/2008 11:37:13 AM








The SAS and SBS are my favorites to win because they are both trained in similar ways and both are also trained to do what other special forces wouldn't even dream of doing.The US Navy Seals and the SAS are easy to compare.....ready for it,the SAS would obviously kick their ass.







Have the best combat record, along with SAS! SF, had trouble in Nam etc.


No, SF didn't have trouble in nam. They, along with SEALS, LRRPs, SOG etc performed superbly. In fact, SOG teams were some of the finest in the business, past and present. Their incursions into Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam were probably the most difficult and dangerous work ever undertaken by any SOF unit.


I was also very confused about his statement about SF. Everything I have heard states that Army SF did an excellent job in Vietnam.
 
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Ehran       1/4/2008 12:21:17 PM

No, SF didn't have trouble in nam. They, along with SEALS, LRRPs, SOG etc performed superbly. In fact, SOG teams were some of the finest in the business, past and present. Their incursions into Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam were probably the most difficult and dangerous work ever undertaken by any SOF unit.

they had grief early on over the brass not really understanding what they were all about etc.

 
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tamak    HAHA!   1/4/2008 2:09:24 PM



And you've passed into each of these units?...



Well, I AM  part of a highly secretive SOF group (you would want to kill yourself if you found out about them). So! your saying,
that it's more covert than, DEVGRU/DELTA? Then, why mention it? Even though, I know your joking it isn't good to do so.

 




 
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tamak    HAHA!   1/4/2008 2:12:47 PM








The SAS and SBS are my favorites to win because they are both trained in similar ways and both are also trained to do what other special forces wouldn't even dream of doing.The US Navy Seals and the SAS are easy to compare.....ready for it,the SAS would obviously kick their ass.







Have the best combat record, along with SAS! SF, had trouble in Nam etc.


No, SF didn't have trouble in nam. They, along with SEALS, LRRPs, SOG etc performed superbly. In fact, SOG teams were some of the finest in the business, past and present. Their incursions into Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam were probably the most difficult and dangerous work ever undertaken by any SOF unit. Then, why did they get overrun, in their FOBs etc??? And a single
SEAL, rescued, a whole SF FOB! Now, that is trouble etc.



 
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dirtykraut       1/4/2008 7:26:42 PM



No, SF didn't have trouble in nam. They, along with SEALS, LRRPs, SOG etc performed superbly. In fact, SOG teams were some of the finest in the business, past and present. Their incursions into Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam were probably the most difficult and dangerous work ever undertaken by any SOF unit.


they had grief early on over the brass not really understanding what they were all about etc.



There is still some of that around today.
 
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dirtykraut       1/4/2008 7:29:25 PM
Tamak, are you honestly trying to tell me that a SEAL, all by his lonesome, saved an antire FOB of SF?
 
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GOP       1/4/2008 7:43:01 PM

Tamak, are you honestly trying to tell me that a SEAL, all by his lonesome, saved an antire FOB of SF?



How would that even be possible. Sounds more to me like the SF FOB saved the SEAL from certain death. I think he's referring to a larger SEAL unit (probably Platoon level) or more...but that would be very uncharacteristic of SEAL ops. Unless it was more of a "We are in the area and wanna assist our SOF brothers" kind of thing.
 
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static       1/5/2008 6:08:44 PM
Maybe if he could figure out how to use commas and quote correctly we would have an idea.
 
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