>>The one that shows up with a gun to a knife fight?<<

No, the one who shows up with a laser designator to a knifer fight.

No SAS would even make it through SEAL hell week. The SEALS are tougher and in better shape physically and mentally. My brother was a SEAL. He once had three Marines back down from fighting him. SEALS are crazy mother fuckers. Don't talk about what you don't have the foggiest clue what you are talking about.

No SAS would even make it through SEAL hell week. The SEALS are tougher and in better shape physically and mentally. My brother was a SEAL. He once had three Marines back down from fighting him. SEALS are crazy mother fuckers. Don't talk about what you don't have the foggiest clue what you are talking about.

question for you, why do you keep talking then? muppet!
i have a clue, thus feel myself entitled to talk about things i feel knowledgeable enough to offer my opinion/expertise on. there are others like me that do have a clue and share that same entitlement to talk. there are others that don't have a first hand clue, but gain insight in a respectful and eager manner. then there are those that don't have a clue, don't give a toss, and don't show respect [they're the billy-no-mates of SP], then there's you, it may be true that your brother was a SEAL and himself has a clue, but you don't and have only degraded your brothers reputation [if he was a SEAL] as a SEAL, and to finish... if he is like you explain [doubtable] then he deserves such degredation of reputation and makes me wonder if hell week really is as successful as it used to be in weeding out the muppets [i.e. people like you]

you have been told, goodbye and have a pleasant day [and don't come back to me F 'ing and blinding, others did and their handle magically disappeared]

Come on Bob, you know the types of deadly weapons a SEAL can fashion from his trousers!

Urkle's brother was just trying to keep the playing field level with those pansy Marines.  Heck, there was only three of them anyway, he probably should have asked for a blindfold to make it fair.  They're just lucky he didn't use his heat vision on them!!

I know I've notied this a bit late but this lads plot seems to be of the 'my BROTHER's penis is larger than yours' variety, not sure I've seen that one.

Hidding behind the layers of this thread there is some thing worth talking about.

 

First layer is todem worship.  Some people have todem animals.  The feel a conection with these spirtual animals and it helps them in some ways.  For some people elit units are todem.  (Sports teams and bands work for other people.)  I confess that I do this with the military in general.  I do it in a much more sopisticated way now than I did when I was six years old.  I was scaired to put my face in the watter and told the swim instructor that I didn't need to swim cause I was gona be in the Army like my dad. 

 

Next layer is people who take the time to mock the shallow todem people.  "You don't know how to revear the elit because you don't do it like I do."  If some on has a SEALs poster on his wall it is better for the world than if he has a Scare Face Movie poster.  On the other hand fans need to learn some manners.  "I am gonna be a SEAL" is much better than "I was/am a SEAL but don't tell anybody." 

 

This all becomes very circular because underneath it is the question of how do you measure things.  I get a bigger vicaious buzz when meditating on Army SF than on Navy.  My fantasy realm is more highlands than river delta I guess.  No harm.

But when people are talking about which todem works for them but can not seperate that from concreat force struture decisions the conversation no where but it goes and goes and goes.

 

My wolf spirt animal will beat your Miami Dolphins spirt animal by three touchdowns.

 

Now we can make light of spirt animal stuff but it is very old and very useful moral building method.  The Screaming Egales by any other name are not the same.  Troops fighting more primative cultures will some times adopt parts of the cloths of the people they defeat.  Why do the brits still where funny hats when they gaurd the seats of power in London? Belive me it is not just to sell post cards.

 

So I got side tracked on the moral thing.

 

What I wold like to hear about with the elits is how you make a package of seletion, training, arming and suporting a unick unit and how that conects with mission assighnment and planning.  We can count who can do more comando push ups.  What is more important is who should get what jobs. 

 

Lets not think of them as compeating with each other but as different clubs in a gulf bag.  Each one dose some needed jobs.  We as a nation want to learn how to use each elit well in prusit of national goals.  That is the important thread.

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This is Pannima invation time frame information and some one may have shanged things with out telling me.  Sending SEALs to take down an air feild is like sending experienced combat engenears to do hasty defence.  They can do it but it's a waste of training.  Further more not all missions call for the same leavel of aggreasion and if you tune a person up as hypper aggresive you must account for that when giving them particular task to preform.

The sad thing about Theo is, that if his brother genuinely is a SEAL, and genuinely did/does what he says (beat up 8 guys trying to jump him, etc), then he does sound like a badass. But Theo is defacing him, the SEAL Teams, and the SAS/UK all at the same time.

 

The real question is why was he walking alone in Tijuana anyway? And was he unarmed? If I was by myself in Tijuana, I'd be packing for sure. As a SEAL, and someone who is used to combat enviroments and scenarios, it seems he would always be carrying...especially in that kind of area.