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raunaq Tier One Units - India 5/18/2006 8:45:23 AM

BTW, I saw the discussion on India... and for the interested, India's Tier One troops now would be the Strategic Command's forces. Its a relatively new unit slowly being put together since 1999. The public mission is primarily managing security for nuclear-facilities, WMD weapons, delivery-systems and VVIP fall-out shelters. Non-disclosed missions supposedly include DA non-proliferation missions, providing fire-power for agencies acquiring intelligence in related fields, mapping rival WMD locations during peace, and targetting enemy WMD locations during war. Of course the Command is still in its infancy. The public missions are visibly evolving. The covert mission capabilities are still teething while other branches catch up to its requirements (precision guided munitions, anyone?) There is of course the $-factor (or should I say, Rs.-factor?): Though the notoriously rank-conscious Indian military will not rank them as sergent-equivalents (as in US SF Teams), they are paid Siachen-hazard-bonus {the highest bonus paid to an Indian soldier ~ for serving on the Siachen Glacier) even when they are comfortably based in plains-facilities. That of course nearly trebels their salary.

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raunaq Tier One Units - olive greens & Cato 5/18/2006 8:58:16 AM

FYI there are always two battalions of Paras circulating through India's "trouble zones", so OG's assertion that Indian SF dont get to see as much action is misleading at best. That is also sound policy - to not squander the most productive seed-troops - which any nation with sense would follow. And when the Para SF do appear in a sector, they approach the mission with just as much drive as they do everything else in their brief.

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Nichevo RE:Tier One Units - Dutch? 5/27/2006 9:19:47 PM

What are the nature and quality of the Netherlands' special forces? Dutchmen were said once upon a time to have a serious rep. Or were they covered in a prior post? I would also wonder whether Spain or Portugal have any worthwhile assets.

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SteelGear RE:Tier One Units 5/30/2006 10:49:05 PM

just my understanding: Tier One would include units like: 22SAS, SASR, DEVGRU, 1st SFOD-D Tier Two would include units like: USArmy-SF, SEALS Tier Three would include units like: USArmy-Rangers, Royal Marine Commandos, USMC force Recon, 4th RAR Commandos If anyone whould like to disagree I'm not stopping you.........flame away ^_^

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RavenAmorth 5/21/2009 2:33:16 AM

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RavenAmorth 5/21/2009 2:33:25 AM

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YOUGOTYOURASSKICKED 1/19/2010 8:34:48 PM

The SAD is strictly Paramilitary, they go to places they're not allowed to be at. They recruit operators from various Tier-1 SOF units such as ST6 and SFOD-D to name a couple. Not to mention the CIA injects some of their own special training into them. In other words, they're considered Tier-1.

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Gaz Tier One Sweden 6/24/2010 3:23:21 AM

Hi cato i was looking for some info about tier one and this was the first sight i looked at and when u said that sweden might have it you were way out of line. We dosnt have any tier one operativs only two special forces units and they are: Special Reconnaissance Group, SIG and Special Protection Group, SSG I have never read seen of heard of any other sof in Sweden, this isnt a bad comment or anything like that I just like to correct people that talks about Sweden.Best regards/ Tor

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justsomedude 6/7/2011 6:46:08 PM

Short answer is no, all of them are not Tier one. Tier one units are under the US SOCOM while the rest of the units, such as other SEAL teams, Marine Force Recon etc are under the command of their respective services. Tier one units can be tasked with "black ops" as some say, as can the CIA's SAD. CIA is in fact meant to be the default force for conducting true black ops.

Now, saying that, here's what I mean by TRUE black ops. The main difference between covert ops and regular special forces missions is the funding and approval.

Regular special forces mission (Seals, Recon etc) fall under USC Title 10, they get approved, directed and funded by the DOD.

Covert action (SAD, Delta, DEVGRU) fall under USC Title 50. Covert ops have to be briefed to and approved by the President's National Security Counsel, then they have to ask for money. BY LAW, DOD and CIA funds cannot be used for covert action. Instead, there is a seperate covert ops budget controlled by congress. When they want to do covert action, someone has to go to congress and ask them to release the funds. Its meant to ensure that the CIA can't just start their own little wars without permission.

EX: If you've ever seen the movie Charlie Wilson's War, that's was the whole theme. All those scenes where Tom Hanks is talking to the senators, its him convincing congress to let the CIA spend money on Afghanistan. CIA had the plan, Charlie Wilson got congress to write the checks.

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gf0012-aust 6/7/2011 7:48:47 PM

"black" does not refer to funding background

black refers to the mission set

green refers to the mission set

white refers to overwatch

$ does not define the mission set as by nature black is covert, the visibility of the activity is a mission clearance issue, ie controlled or uncontrolled -green can also be covert

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