SCCO, I have read your comments and I agree with you that you were only trying to point out who FAST is and what FAST does. For some reason, everyone interpreted what you said into some kind of dick measuring SOF contest. When it is clearly not what you set out to do. I understand your position when people compare FAST to DEVGRU, US Marines to Royal Marines, and I have seen it done before. If anyone is really dumb enough to see everything in balck and white, than it proves their lack of knowledge about military affairs. Because you don't compare US Marines to Royal Marines and you don't compare FAST to DEVGRU. To do so would not only be in ignorance of each of these units, it brings us to a lower level. I am glad you pointed that out.

BTW, the only HALO combat jump since the GWOT by US forces has been by the Marines...not SEAL's

This is not correct, and no you don't need to know any more.

But, but...I thought SEAL stood for Sleep, Eat, and Lift.

This is not correct, and no you don't need to know any more.

If your thinking about what I think your thinking about, you should not have brought it up.......good one

But wait, I know what both of you are thinking and if it's something like I'm thinking, then...wait. Could it be one of you is thinking something I'm thinking but not what we are all thinking? Or is it that thing that I'm thinking that I shouldn't think?

You guys suck with your little OPSEC and such things.

I didn't compare DEVGRU to FAST, I said DEVGRU whips FAST's a**, there is a difference (and I realize I was off base, by the way).

Basic response: as Horsesoldier says, go for either Army or Corps, since you will get combat nowadays anyway. If you join the Army, the chances of not getting sent to either 'Stan or Iraq are slim, and if you are in 10th, 82nd or 101st, then you will be seeing almost spec ops type combat anyway (in the current wars, there is less concept of frontlines).

One thing to be careful of is this, if you go in with the attitude of 'all I want is to go behind enemy lines and shoot', you will probably not get into elite units. As horse says, discipline is as important as drive!

  If I were you, I'd go Navy!If you fail BUD/s, you have two excellent choices: SWCC and EOD.
 

All these things are variable lad, if a FR unit is doing more DA missions then a given SEAL platoon, ect ect, then the FR team would be considered "better", skill's get used or they get rusty, you can train and train all you want, but unless those skills are employed it's really a mute point,

BTW, you can't really be better at HALO jumping, your either good or dead...

How do you know this? I was on a westpac, with FR and SEALS and they never speak about their ops?
But, I'm not saying your wrong either etc.

Your taking from the MARINES knowledge of themselves and repeating it!It's very illegal...

    Let me first give a little information about myself....I was a Marine for 4 years where I was a grunt and eventually a Scout/Sniper.  I left the Marine Corps to enlist in the Army. I went Airborne and then onto Special Forces. I am not alone in this journy as may marines have done similar things ( SF, CCT, SEALs, ect.). Everyone here is correct that the odds are stacked against you but ...so what. You must train to be extremely physicaly fit and have a mind set that will allow you to block out pain and discomfort. Being elit literaly means liking to be miserable ALL THE TIME! As for boot camp...This should't even be a consideration as it will have little affect on you if you are prepared to be SF ( or Recon, SEAL,ect..) If not then this alone ill break you and you should have stayed home. As far as who is better......They all train for the same typs of missions and goto the SAME SCHOOLS....When you goto military free fall school all branches wil be there, and all the instructors are fro different branchs as well. When I went to combat diver course the instructors where mostly SEALS. This is the way it is beacause you will be working for SOCOM or JSOC regardless of what branch you are. As for a unit that has the highest operational tempo durring peace or war.... I would go SEAL and try to get in to the Naval Special Warfare Dvelopment Group ( was Known as SEAL team 6 )....or Army 1st SFOD-D ( unofficaly known as DELTA ).... These are the best and are VERY selective.... I'd say you have a 1 in a million chance of getting there... However don't get discouraged. The Army is more supportave of such endevors and would be my first choice. The Navy or Air Force is much quicker since you don't have to be infantry first. The Marine Corps untill recently were not a part of JSOC so some things might have changed....But ALL Marines feel their the best and don't care for spec ops ( or Snipers, ect ). With this additudeits very difficult to even get command permmision to to indocs to try out for Force, or STA. It won't take long and you'll be very unhappy where you're at and you won't be able to do anything about it till its time to EAS ( get out).

 

Good Luck.

 

okay here is the deal i was like you 3 months ago wasnt sure where in the military i should go but after i was accepted to odu i talked to a navyal rotc instructor he said that if i were to join the marines and attempt and pass the RF training you are elligible for BUDs and if you can pass the RF you have obviously trained and shown dedication to be a SEAL (plus HALO/HAHO is already done) SEAL training,mentally, should be a piece of cake. As the SEALs say BUDs is 90% mental 10% physical. So basically go with your heart but me smart becom a Marine then a SEAL. Also Army rangers do this too. By the way just so you know pretty much everyone is behind enemy lines now days frontlines died pretty much when the commi guerillas came into play.

SEALs: if u like sneaking up on the enemy and willing to use any element (Sea Air or Land)

RF: is really only got the badass label on their snipers otherwise your basically the SEALs intelligence

Berets: if you wanna know everything there is about war and want to teach it so you can create your army in a foreign land

AFP: if you like the classified title

DF: your classified as well but if you like being a hero hostage situation is the way to go and they are the masters