i think the general level of education being offered to
children these days is definitely in a steep decline (zealot777). The situation
is made all the worse through a disproportionate influx of overly patriotic biased
ignorance; someone should make a complaint...

The kids are out in Force... again...

it must be school holidays again

In regards to the actual topic, despite being difficult to compare anyway, it is
always unfair to try and compare the SAS to any other Special Forces unit in
the world for one simple reason. Their level of secrecy. all units have their
secrets but i would gladly put money on saying the in terms of the known
special forces units in the world, the SAS are indeed one of if not the single
most secretive special forces outfits around, certainly more so than their US
counterparts (and i am not suggesting here that the US special forces are not
in any way secretive about their operations either as they quite clearly are).
in fact the only outfit that i feel keeps its cards even closer to its chest
would be the SAS' counterparts in the British SRS/SRR (Special Reconnaissance
Service/Regiment) which originally sourced its routes from the highly elusive
I14 (Intelligence 14) company that operated extensively and highly covertly
throughout Northern and indeed Southern Ireland during the troubles over there.
There is simply not enough information in circulation to make any form of
neither accurate nor reasoned comparisons. as such, most arguments are based on
hear say, guestimations, nationalist pride and legends/reputations which i
think most would agree do not make for particularly effective arguments
especially when you attempt to marry such theories with the few actual
plausible snippets of information than one may have to hand, which even then
would be difficult to confirm with absolute authority.

exercises in regards to most special forces comparisons largely just boil down to a war
of reputations and rumours of exploits with the ever frequent undertones of
nationalism (which is not entirely bad when respect is shown to both sides, its
biased nationalism, without any consideration for the opposing argument that i dislike,
unless perhaps it is being used in the face of total ignorance, in which case
it may be acceptable).

to this end though should i make a comment in regards to the original topic, as far as
reputations are concerned the SAS has one of if not the best in the business,
few can even attempt to emulate the few exploits that we do know of and they
continue to make very big impact today (recent reports have revealed that joint
special forces task groups killed 1400 senior and junior Taliban soldiers on
the so called "hit/hunt" missions in a single 90 day period), and
since all we have to go on in purely reputations based on past activities and a
few pieces of plausible information, i would like to state that personally i
feel that the SAS/SBS/SRR (essentially all part of the same unit if you will,
to all intents and purposes that is) are quite simply the best of the best.

but then again, can i confirm my claims, probably not and i would never be able to, not
unless someone was to set up an exercise where the mimicked every single
possible military scenario, with every variable taken into account over many
hundreds of occasions featuring a comparison between two sets of special forces
with a winner being declared as the absolute best based only upon achieving at
least a 95% success ratio against all opponents in all the scenario ranges that
they are pitted against to officially be declared the best special forces in
the world. This as we all know is impossible and even then, the results
wouldn't be 100% assured.

exercises in regards to most special forces comparisons largely just boil down to a war
of reputations and rumours of exploits with the ever frequent undertones of
nationalism (which is not entirely bad when respect is shown to both sides, its
biased nationalism, without any consideration for the opposing argument that i dislike,
unless perhaps it is being used in the face of total ignorance, in which case
it may be acceptable).

to this end though should i make a comment in regards to the original topic, as far as
reputations are concerned the SAS has one of if not the best in the business,
few can even attempt to emulate the few exploits that we do know of and they
continue to make very big impact today (recent reports have revealed that joint
special forces task groups killed 1400 senior and junior Taliban soldiers on
the so called "hit/hunt" missions in a single 90 day period), and
since all we have to go on in purely reputations based on past activities and a
few pieces of plausible information, i would like to state that personally i
feel that the SAS/SBS/SRR (essentially all part of the same unit if you will,
to all intents and purposes that is) are quite simply the best of the best.

but then again, can i confirm my claims, probably not and i would never be able to, not
unless someone was to set up an exercise where the mimicked every single
possible military scenario, with every variable taken into account over many
hundreds of occasions featuring a comparison between two sets of special forces
with a winner being declared as the absolute best based only upon achieving at
least a 95% success ratio against all opponents in all the scenario ranges that
they are pitted against to officially be declared the best special forces in
the world. This as we all know is impossible and even then, the results
wouldn't be 100% assured.

exercises in regards to most special forces comparisons largely just boil down to a war
of reputations and rumours of exploits with the ever frequent undertones of
nationalism (which is not entirely bad when respect is shown to both sides, its
biased nationalism, without any consideration for the opposing argument that i dislike,
unless perhaps it is being used in the face of total ignorance, in which case
it may be acceptable).

to this end though should i make a comment in regards to the original topic, as far as
reputations are concerned the SAS has one of if not the best in the business,
few can even attempt to emulate the few exploits that we do know of and they
continue to make very big impact today (recent reports have revealed that joint
special forces task groups killed 1400 senior and junior Taliban soldiers on
the so called "hit/hunt" missions in a single 90 day period), and
since all we have to go on in purely reputations based on past activities and a
few pieces of plausible information, i would like to state that personally i
feel that the SAS/SBS/SRR (essentially all part of the same unit if you will,
to all intents and purposes that is) are quite simply the best of the best.

but then again, can i confirm my claims, probably not and i would never be able to, not
unless someone was to set up an exercise where the mimicked every single
possible military scenario, with every variable taken into account over many
hundreds of occasions featuring a comparison between two sets of special forces
with a winner being declared as the absolute best based only upon achieving at
least a 95% success ratio against all opponents in all the scenario ranges that
they are pitted against to officially be declared the best special forces in
the world. This as we all know is impossible and even then, the results
wouldn't be 100% assured.