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Subject: NAVY SEALS VS BRITISH SAS
LJ813    7/1/2005 9:34:17 PM
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dirtykraut       12/17/2007 8:04:27 PM
Not to take anything away from Hell week, but there are many tests in military SOF training that can claim to be more difficult. Such examples can be found in Ranger School (it's difficulty is very underrated), SFAS and Q course (phase two is like a 40 day hell week), PJ Indoc, SAS and CAG selection/training. Horse and mough both illustrated specific examples in another thread (many moons ago). You have to remember, that in BUD/S, you get the weekends off. That is a huge moral boost for people who are having doubts if they can really do 6 months of this crap. Compare this to Navy EOD that has to endure physical and mental torture like in BUD/s, while at the same time absorb a ton of information. It has been compared to triathalons while in finals week. Again, Bob mentioned that the two programs are demanding in different ways. People have different stengths and weaknesses.
 
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bob the brit       12/17/2007 8:20:21 PM






 You don't know what the hell you are talking about and need to shut your damn mouth. There is NO comparison between SEALS and girl scouts (oops, I mean SAS). SEALS are more physically fit, deadlier, better trained and mentally stronger then any special forces unit in the world. My brother was a SEAL (Team 3, Class 145), and you wouldn't believe the stories I've heard. One Navy SEAL would beat the living shit out of any SAS. You can't get any better then the SEALS. You would have to literally be Superman. No SAS member would even make it through Hell week. America is the greatest military super-power in the world, and our special forces (SEALS) are the best in the world.








just to make things interesting how bout a 200 km route march with a 50 kg bergen across some nice scenic mtns and jungle before the fight breaks out.  give them a nice easy pace of say 36 hours for the march.



Haha, isn't that called "Test week" or something similar during SAS selection? That sounds killer. Hell week is extremely tough, but obviously that is extremely tough too. They are different. but equally demanding I would say.

Funny line quoted from Theo "The SEALs beat the Marines, and the Marines are better than the SAS so...". WTF? Who is this dumbass?


the fan dance and other picnics in the brecons are no cup of tea, yet as you pointed out, hell week is tough in its own right, i doubt i could pass it as a young up and start looking for a good time, water is not my strength. while they are different [obviously], i wouldn't say they are equally demanding as they demand very different things from a person, however, GOP, i understand what you were trying to get across.
 
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bob the brit       12/17/2007 8:24:22 PM
what's with the double post? people re going to think i've gone mad and like to repost my previous comments 25 minutes later. guess SP is just reinforcing my meagre poit by putting it up twice
 
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gf0012-aust       12/17/2007 8:31:46 PM

what's with the double post? people re going to think i've gone mad and like to repost my previous comments 25 minutes later. guess SP is just reinforcing my meagre poit by putting it up twice



don't hit refresh after you post.  you need to bail out and come back in to check for updates.
 
 
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bob the brit       12/17/2007 9:23:45 PM




what's with the double post? people re going to think i've gone mad and like to repost my previous comments 25 minutes later. guess SP is just reinforcing my meagre poit by putting it up twice





don't hit refresh after you post.  you need to bail out and come back in to check for updates.

 


gotcha, cheers gf
 
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GOP       12/17/2007 11:56:51 PM










 You don't know what the hell you are talking about and need to shut your damn mouth. There is NO comparison between SEALS and girl scouts (oops, I mean SAS). SEALS are more physically fit, deadlier, better trained and mentally stronger then any special forces unit in the world. My brother was a SEAL (Team 3, Class 145), and you wouldn't believe the stories I've heard. One Navy SEAL would beat the living shit out of any SAS. You can't get any better then the SEALS. You would have to literally be Superman. No SAS member would even make it through Hell week. America is the greatest military super-power in the world, and our special forces (SEALS) are the best in the world.











just to make things interesting how bout a 200 km route march with a 50 kg bergen across some nice scenic mtns and jungle before the fight breaks out.  give them a nice easy pace of say 36 hours for the march.





Haha, isn't that called "Test week" or something similar during SAS selection? That sounds killer. Hell week is extremely tough, but obviously that is extremely tough too. They are different. but equally demanding I would say.



Funny line quoted from Theo "The SEALs beat the Marines, and the Marines are better than the SAS so...". WTF? Who is this dumbass?




the fan dance and other picnics in the brecons are no cup of tea, yet as you pointed out, hell week is tough in its own right, i doubt i could pass it as a young up and start looking for a good time, water is not my strength. while they are different [obviously], i wouldn't say they are equally demanding as they demand very different things from a person, however, GOP, i understand what you were trying to get across.


Yeah, I was just trying to point out that they are both extremely tough and both present extreme challenges to the individuals who undergo the selection process. It's impossible to rate selection courses, as most people haven't been through more than 2.
And sorry for you having to deal with such a dumbass Bob.
 
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bob the brit       12/18/2007 10:43:10 AM















 You don't know what the hell you are talking about and need to shut your damn mouth. There is NO comparison between SEALS and girl scouts (oops, I mean SAS). SEALS are more physically fit, deadlier, better trained and mentally stronger then any special forces unit in the world. My brother was a SEAL (Team 3, Class 145), and you wouldn't believe the stories I've heard. One Navy SEAL would beat the living shit out of any SAS. You can't get any better then the SEALS. You would have to literally be Superman. No SAS member would even make it through Hell week. America is the greatest military super-power in the world, and our special forces (SEALS) are the best in the world.














just to make things interesting how bout a 200 km route march with a 50 kg bergen across some nice scenic mtns and jungle before the fight breaks out.  give them a nice easy pace of say 36 hours for the march.







Haha, isn't that called "Test week" or something similar during SAS selection? That sounds killer. Hell week is extremely tough, but obviously that is extremely tough too. They are different. but equally demanding I would say.





Funny line quoted from Theo "The SEALs beat the Marines, and the Marines are better than the SAS so...". WTF? Who is this dumbass?






the fan dance and other picnics in the brecons are no cup of tea, yet as you pointed out, hell week is tough in its own right, i doubt i could pass it as a young up and start looking for a good time, water is not my strength. while they are different [obviously], i wouldn't say they are equally demanding as they demand very different things from a person, however, GOP, i understand what you were trying to get across.



Yeah, I was just trying to point out that they are both extremely tough and both present extreme challenges to the individuals who undergo the selection process. It's impossible to rate selection courses, as most people haven't been through more than 2.

And sorry for you having to deal with such a dumbass Bob.


I can't say i've tried a variety [I've not tried anything else]. And in fact all these sporadic outbursts of 'brother-was-a-SEAL-itis' are quite fun, they're too typical to be taken seriously, and it's always interesting to find the latest info that some muppet just searched for on the internet or gleened from their copy of 'special forces encyclopaedia' [I've seen the books, I know the nonsense that's in them]. I think for fun, I'll back up the next nutter that pulls the 'couisin is ex-SF and told me everything'... I'll play along as if they couldn't be righter than rain then we catch 'em.
 
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historynut       12/18/2007 10:52:10 AM
This sounds like asking if the guy flying the jet is better then the guy flying the helicopter. There trained different ways to do different things. The guy in the jet is never going to land in a hot LZ to pick someone up. The guy in the copter is never going to go air-to-air with other fighters.
If there not trained and equiped the same way you can't compare them
 
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bob the brit    bob's coming out   12/19/2007 12:41:41 AM










The British SAS, man for man, is better. SEALs train for about 6 weeks or so, the SAS trains for over a year, so as far as who is better trained, it is obvious that it is the SAS.

Who is better at taking as oil rig from terrorists? No question the SEALs, because that is what they are trained to do (the SAS would have to parachute in). I have heard that the SEAL's are better than the SBS, but I have no way of knowing or proving that.




One time my brother had three Marines back down from fighting him, and one of the Marines had a knife. My brother was only wearing shorts and a tee-shirt. SEALS are crazy mother fuckers. You "SAS" people are fucking morons. Don't talk about things that you have no clue on what you are talking about.  Human pontential in terms of mental strength and physical toughness is achieved only in SEAL training. You would have to literally be Superman to get any higher. SAS suck. They're good for the UK, but compared to America and the SEALS the SAS are panzies.





Get the fuck out. Take your bullshit somewhere else.



Do you even know anything about SOF? Do you realize that the SAS is a Tier 1 force, whereas the SEALs are 'tier 2'. Meaning the SAS is more selective.



 



We are beyond this "Navy SEALs vs. SAS" thing. We have been done with this for awhile.



 



And your brother would have most likely gotten hurt very, very badly. Fighting 3 guys with knives is HORRIBLE, TERRIBLE odds. Whether you are an expert in unarmed combat or not means nothing, get the fuck out of there. Immediately.




See we are in an entirely different universes here. We don't even have the same vocabulary. First of all, a SAS would have gotten hurt very, very badly because they are panzies. My brother, a SEAL would have beat the ... out of them. SEALS are crazy and not afraid of anything. You've probably never even seen a SEAL or talked or interacted with one. You're speaking from total  ignorance. And I said ONE of the guys had a kinfe. My brother used to beat-up Marines all the time. One time he got jumped by eight Mexicans in Tijuana. He whooped all their asses. This guy is crazy. SEALS are crazy mother. The UK sucks. SEALS are Tier 1 globally. SAS is Tier one only in the UK. The human body and mind cannot go beyond what occurs in SEAL training. As I said, you would have to literally be Superman. The US is the greatest military Super-power in the world, as is our SEALS and special forces. The UK is in the dark ages compared to us. Everything in the UK sucks, as do their SAS.

 

 


 


alright, alright, I've been unfaithful to everyone on here, for too long I've been pushing a 'bad ankle' as my reason for getting a 'desk job' and eventually leaving the regiment. 'twas a lie people, a rotten lie, i was actually beaten and humiliated [along with the rest of b squaddies] by one SEAL, that's right, ONE SEAL. we had longs, shorts, blades, hell we even had grenades. he was just too tough for us, not many survived, brings tears to my eyes thinking back to that horrible, frightful day.
I've met a couple of froggies in my time, but I've always been very afraid of them, likely because i was a pansie.
and you know, theo is bang on, the UK is still in the dark ages [i chisel my posts on stone and have them sent to america via a messenger and a sail ship, so that an american person can type them up on a computer],
 
theo... how old are you? why are you such a muppet?
when you finish kindegarten [or whatever its called] you can paint us all here a pretty finger painting of your brother the superman SEAL beating up fifty marines, but
 
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bob the brit    bob's coming out   12/19/2007 12:50:20 AM

 

Some idiot from the UK tried to tell me that SEALS don't take men over six feet tall because, as he alleged, taller men are slower.. I pointed out they take anyone who meets their requirements and passes their tests --whether 4 feet or 8 feet. I also pointed out my brother is 6'3'' tall and he was in the top three in running and swimming out of a platoon of about 50 guys. I also wrote a SEAL and told him what that UK idiot said. He responded:

 

"if your brother was a SEAL then he should be able to convince this
fellow that SEALs are indeed the cream of the crop. As for height, I am
6'5" tall so there goes the height question. The SAS is indeed a great
group of guys doing a fantastic job wherever they go. Are they better
than SEALs? No. We both have our strengths, I just feel we are a bit
more rounded. Hope this helps"


R/
SO1 (SEAL) [deleted by Sysops]

as for that little quote, [and please, to all others, i'm not suddenly boasting, just applying my opinion], I would not say the SEALs are more rounded than the regiment. It was not there job to be. The regiment had a few more job titles than the SEALs, now I'm not saying this is better [if anything it gave SEALs better chance to focus on their area of expertise], but you would find more checks on an errands checklist of the regiment than you would the SEALs. After saying this though, Mr. [deleted by SysOps]'s opinion is no greater or lesser than mine, 'nuff said.
theo, why don't you write to santa aswell and see what he says?
 
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