Theo, I'll give you the reason why people like you have a SEAL fettish. Back in the early 90's, the cold war had just ended, and the military was beginning it's transformation from a cold war army to global military capable of projecting power anywhere on the planet.  To do this, they needed less army personell and more Navy personell. However, the Navy had difficulty recruiting the numbers they needed. This was because Army, Marine, and Air Force ads were interesting, and could catch the viewers attention. In the army you could drive a tank, in the Air Force you could fly a plane, and in the Marine Corps you could be part of something greater than yourself, or so the ads portrayed them. The Navy really didn't have much to show/offer, and the most accurate Navy recruiting commercial back then would have been of sailors drinking coffee, chipping paint, and working in confined spaces for 6 months at a time. So the Navy decided to put SEALs in these ads. And what do you know, it worked. SEAL publicicity continued to skyrocket after that, and the SEAL mythology was created. It's not unlike how the SAS mythos was created after the 1980 Iranian embassy siege.

 

Having said that, both are excellent units. Comparisons between the two units have to be taken in the right context. It has been mentioned, that they are both different units with different tasks. A more apt comparison would be that of the SBS and SEALs. You also have to remember that as queer as it sounds, the SAS is a tier one unit and the SEALs are not. It is a more experienced unit (due to the experience of the individual operators, not how long the two units have been around). It is also a more selective unit. Soldiers who attend SAS selection have years of experience, and were chosen to go to selection because of their stellar performance in their previous regiments. Whereas 90% of SEAL recruits come from SEAL challenge contracts or volunteers in basic or A school. In otherwords, brand new sailors with NO experience, however fit they may be. The SEALS are also 10 times larger than the SAS. The SAS is also a better funded unit. The SAS I believe is anywhere from 200-400 soldiers (correct me if I'm wrong Bob), and one of the reasons for the unit's excellence is that MoD spends well over 400 million dollars on the unit, the most expensive regiment in the British army. SEALs, however, are the red headed stepchildren of SOCOM, and probably recieve less funding than their peers in SOCOM and JSOC because of it.  Not all SOF's are created equal, and these things must be taken into account when a comparison is made.

I've asked for confirmation on Mr [deleted by SysOps].

I'm more interested in Theos brother.

First name (or nickname), currency (or a year when active) and where he was located for that year will do fine.......

This may be a little off topic but is anyone getting any strange ads on strategypage? I constantly get ads for the book of mormon when I visit this website.

mate, check your T5C PM's

 

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I'm still trying to figure ot how his "brother" could get into so many fight's and not be tagged for personality issues or maybe even behavioural and emotional one's then recieve the order of the boot, guys like that don't last too long in operational unit's, regular ones, never mind SOF's, too unpredictable, temperamental, if he loses the head in the civie World, what happenes under stress and in combat?, that whole lone wolf/Rambo bullshit is best left for the movies.....don't see it myself

I agree. He "beats up Marines often", so Im absolutely shocked that his "Brother" is still in the Teams. Wouldn't that constitute an integrity issue? They seem very, very serious about that. Heck, I even think Mookie was kicked out for integrity issues.

seal traing is not 6 weeks long i would know this cuz im about to go through my self. Bud/s is 6 months which is broken down in to 3 different phase the first 2 months is all conditioning. With in the first 5 weeks i think it is, you go through hell week. It is 5 and ahalf days of stright physical and mental conditioning with only 4 hours a sleep, no not a day, but with in the hole week. but after the first 2 months which is to basically eliminate the weak from the strong. next 2 months is dive phase and then the next 2 months is small tactical unit traing. then after bud/s you go to parachute school other wize known as jump school. thats a month long by its self. after that is 5 months of advance sea air and land traing, after you have complete a year of seal traing you graduate, but its still not done yet. you get asssighned to a seal team and then do individual traing for up to 6 months. after all that your ready to be put to the test in the real world.

 

if you didnt know there is a 80% drop out rate, which means people DOR  (drop on request), theres been a couple of years where know one makes it. so its pretty dang hard. not to many people make the seals theres only about less then 3000 seals.

 

 

You don't know much, do you? For someone about to go through the SEAL pipeline, you seem pretty uneducated. Good luck with that though.

First of all, It's SEa Air Land.

 

Secondly, the SAS has some extremely good combat swimmers aswell.

 

Third, the "Special Air Service" name has more to do with their original past than any kind of TO/E, mission specialization, whatever. They are extremely good in the air, but they don't 'specialize' in HALO/HAHO ops. The SAS doesn't specialize in any one area, although they are extremely well know for their SR, especially in the desert.

 

So comparing the SEAL Teams to the SAS, and saying they "are just as certified", is retarded. The SAS is more selective, has a higher budget per man, is a tier 1 unit, trains with other Tier 1 units more often, and see a shit ton of action. So, this whole SEAL/SAS comparison is way out of kilter. Yeah, we absolutely cannot compare them, but the SAS is a tier 1 force. That counts for alot.  

maybe you should do some homework before presenting ill informed opinion as fact. The SAS is a corp divided up into 3 regiments.

One regiment includes sabre squadrons.  each squadron includes a number(usually 4) of sixteen man troops.  each troop has a speciality /functional responsibility.  They are divided into an Air Troop, Boat Troop, Mobility Troop, and Mountain Troop.

 

the other regiments have discrete roles.

 

The name is a legacy of its historical foundation - not an exclusivity of mode of operation.