Ok, I saw this "discussion" while going thru some stuff on this page and I have never seen the level of ignorance before that is demonstrated here.

Horsesoldier and Paratroop, are you two smoking something? The SEAL Teams are not just maritime commandos, there primary mission is Direct Action and they should be compared to the SBS, DevGru has a counterpart in the SBS as well, but the regular SBS squads are just like the teams. Also, what the f!*& are you talking about with our high attrition rate? We have lost very few guys, the most we have lost were in a helicopter shoot down, that is it, other than that we have taken amazingly low casualties.You say SEALs shot a couple of friendlies in a prison raid? Again, you are on crack, that never happened, you are getting that from a rumor mill or are mistaken about who did that. As for training-

BUD/S- 26 weeks, followed by 15 weeks of SQT, then Jump School. Then you go to your team and do a year and half work up, whose primary focus is Land Operations! Combat Diving is about 3 weeks of that work up. No one can touch us as far as Land Warfare Tactics go, the Aussie and Canuck SOF were even doing there tactics and patrols like us in Aghanistan. Sean Naylor and the rest of the Army cats thinking they have the total package deal are seriously mistaken, no one can do all the things we do as well as we do them except the SBS, that is it. Are the SAS, Delta, etc..better at some things than us? Yes, especially in the area of Long Range RECCE, but as far as MOUT (SOUC), CQC and Land Warfare Tactics, sorry, no one outside of Delta in the US is close. I have not worked with the SAS guys, have met and seen some via working with the SBS, but that is it. The Aussie SAS are better than the UK SAS from what I have seen and been told by other guys who have worked with both, just a side note for ya.I do know that no one comes close to the Aussies as far as RECCE goes. The SBS are great, hard and well trained, but they are the only guys I would put in the boat with us and they are better at some things and we are better at some things.

As for the SF Q course being as tough or tougher than BUD/S? Are you guys for real? Get a grip, you have a 3 week selection, I have seen it, a joke compared to even one week of BUD/S like "Hell Week". Then the rest of your Q course is training, not getting yelled and beaten, etc..your selection is over, now it is up to your skills and learning ability but your gut check phase is only 3 weeks! Stop comparing it, not even close! You have some great courses, good teachers and are awesome at FID but do not think that your selection or your tactics and Combat training even comes close to ours.

I am not sure where you guys get your info from, some of the comments are obviously just professional jealousy, no worries, I expect that from an some guys who would last maybe three weeks into BUD/S. .

The Brits used to be the best, hands down, they had N. Ireland to practice on and were cutting edge in the area of MOUT, we still share everything with them and they with us. We took there tactics and improved on them. I have seen the SF do CQC, it is scary and they are out of date on tactics, Delta is awesome at it, SF, not so much. Land Warfare Tactics? Go watch the East Coast Teams sometime practice there Fire and Movement Drills, I bet you a million dollars they will blow away anything the SF lads do or even most other SOF units. Overall, yes, the Brits have a better trained and lead military on the ground than us, but the SAS are still living off a legend, ask some of the SBS guys what they think of them after the Falklands or some other incidents.

While I understand the need to talk about stuff, maybe vent a little but at least do some research before you start talking and use your heads when making sweeping comments about stuff that didn't happen.