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Subject: NAVY SEALS VS BRITISH SAS
LJ813    7/1/2005 9:34:17 PM
I WILL GO FOR THE NAVY..
 
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Lanton    RE:NAVY SEALS VS BRITISH SAS   7/1/2005 11:42:29 PM
Shouldn't the thread be titled 'NAVY SEALS VS SBS'? Comparing apples and oranges like this is nonsense anyway. The Navy Seals are trained and equipped for a multitude of tasks not primarily focused on the kind of warfare practised by units like Delta and the SAS. Although i've read that the Navy Seals have been actively involved in land warfare operations in conjunction with Delta and the Army's other special forces/raider units. As for the SAS, well, they've got the most rigorous selection and training regime in the world, plus each trooper is trained in a multitude of tasks allowing that individual to reasonably operate in a team or individually in any environment anywhere in the world.
 
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Britain_patriot    RE:NAVY SEALS VS BRITISH SAS   7/2/2005 7:47:45 AM
I would go for the SBS, but i would say that
 
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GOP    RE:NAVY SEALS VS BRITISH SAS   7/2/2005 4:45:00 PM
The British SAS, man for man, is better. SEALs train for about 6 weeks or so, the SAS trains for over a year, so as far as who is better trained, it is obvious that it is the SAS. Who is better at taking as oil rig from terrorists? No question the SEALs, because that is what they are trained to do (the SAS would have to parachute in). I have heard that the SEAL's are better than the SBS, but I have no way of knowing or proving that.
 
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shek    RE:NAVY SEALS VS BRITISH SAS   7/2/2005 6:41:26 PM
BUDS is much longer than 6 weeks. As for who is better, who cares. They both kick ass and are on the same side, and that's what I care about.
 
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firstblood    RE:NAVY SEALS VS BRITISH SAS   7/4/2005 9:47:36 PM
You should compare the SAS with Army Green Berets and Army Delta Force operators. And you should compare the SBS with Navy Seals. And don't forget about Naval Special Warfare Development Group(DevGru), wich is the Navy Seals Elite Counter-Terrorism unit.
 
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EW3    RE:NAVY SEALS VS BRITISH SAS - GOP   7/8/2005 9:43:35 AM
SEALs train for about 6 weeks or so It's actually a lot closer to 2 years.
 
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moughoun1    RE:NAVY SEALS VS BRITISH SAS - GOP   7/9/2005 6:03:34 PM
utterly stupid pointless thread
 
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firstblood    utterly stupid pointless thread    7/12/2005 10:08:21 PM
why are you reading and replying to it then?
 
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GOP    RE:NAVY SEALS VS BRITISH SAS - GOP   7/16/2005 3:17:53 PM
I had no idea. I thought it was only 6 weeks.
 
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EW3    RE:NAVY SEALS VS BRITISH SAS - GOP   7/16/2005 4:05:47 PM
Understood, they don't exactly advertise it ;) Some idea of the training cycle: 1. Navy bootcamp in a special SEAL candidate unit (brutal) about 12 weeks. 2. 'A' school for a tech skill like gunners mate, but with a SEAL twist. (6mo) 3. Six months of BUD/S link After that they are assigned to a team. Where they recieve 6-12 months more of on the job training with the team. They aren't really considered "operators" till this is over.
 
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GOP    RE:NAVY SEALS VS BRITISH SAS - GOP   7/19/2005 10:01:41 PM
Considering how my goal has always been to either be in US Marine Force Recon or the SEAL's, I picked up the book Down Range by Dick Couch, which is about SEAL's in the WOT, for a little more research. He says that to go from boot camp to being ready for deployment is about 3 years of training overall, and he mentions everything you do. I have no earthly idea where I got 6 weeks, it is More like 160 weeks. Thanks for the info
 
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S.C.P    RE:NAVY SEALS VS BRITISH SAS   8/4/2005 7:47:44 AM
Well Technically as has been said you should put it like: SAS vs Delta SBS vs SEALS I don't think the US Rangers or Green Berets are quite on the same level as any of the above. They are more similar to the UK Paras and Royal Marine Commandos. They are neither conventional or specaial forces. Although I think the British Royal Marine Commandos and US Green Berets are pretty much top notch and come close to being special forces in some aspects of their training, and they both wear Green Berets!
 
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GOP    RE:NAVY SEALS VS BRITISH SAS   9/26/2005 2:36:58 PM
How are we comparing them? Operationally. The SAS do classical counter terrorist operations, they are door kickers and spend most of there time practicing kicking in doors, going undercover, doing HALO, and rappelling. The SEALs specialize in classical underwater operations, they are divers and spend most of their time diving, swimming, jumping from helicopters, and some HALO. You can't compare these two operationally because they have very different missions. Training. The SEALs go through very harsh training at BUD's, probably the -hardest - training in the world; Hell week is unmatched in pressure, stress, physical fatigue, and mental fatigue, but BUD's is short. After Hell week, training is nowhere near as intense. The SAS go through alot of land nav courses and also do a good bit of running, but it is not as intense as BUDs and is a more casual experience (you are treated like a human being, not a abused animal). The SAS course is much longer and it is very hard on your feet. Both training courses are very effective for what they are trying to teach. BUD's and follow up training produces top quality Combat divers and Maritime operaters. The SAS training course (I do not know what it is called) produces top-quality Land nav and counter-terrorist commandos. There is no way to compare training, as both is extremely hard and 'hard' is different for every person. For example, some SAS commandos may have trouble swimming from one side of an olympic sized pool and back underwater, but some SEALs might have trouble completing a timed land nav course in which you do not know the distance only the time you have to make it in. Reptutation. The SAS wins this one, as they are thought of as the best in the world by almost everyone. This is probably not fair to the other SOF forces, but they have earned their reputation (even if it is a little bloated). Who would win in a fight. Well, since there is roughly 5,000 Navy SEALs and 500 or so SAS, I am going with the SEAL's :)
 
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Patriot-Brit    RE:NAVY SEALS VS BRITISH SAS   10/29/2005 6:29:51 PM
Well what about where the two helicopters crashed in together, carrying Navy Seals, or where the Seals Killed 2 British troops after trying to enter a prison. The British SAS are more elite by far. For example the turkish embassy siege, the British SAS are far more elite, you should be comparing the Seals to the Royal Marines, who in my opinion are far more elite!
 
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GOP    RE:NAVY SEALS VS BRITISH SAS - Patriot-Brit   10/29/2005 11:37:09 PM
Your facts are way...way off. The SAS should be compared to Delta, I agree, but SEALs should in no freakin way ever, ever, ever be compared to Royal Marine Commandos. SEALs are far more 'elite' on average. SEALs would run and laugh through the RM commando training course, whereas the RM commandos would be in extremely bad shape. I know that the Brits focus much more on running than upper body strength, try having your commandos do 750 pushups (or 'pressups') in 1 hour, run 4 miles carrying a 120 lb RIB on their head every meal (and everywhere they go), swim 1-2 miles in open ocean, paddle their RIB twice that distance...and do it all in 1 day with no sleep (in hell week) Not too pretty for your guys
 
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