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Subject: NAVY SEALS VS BRITISH SAS
LJ813    7/1/2005 9:34:17 PM
I WILL GO FOR THE NAVY..
 
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S.E.A.L.       10/16/2009 12:40:09 PM
"The British SAS, man for man, is better. SEALs train for about 6 weeks or so, the SAS trains for over a year"..."SAS would have to parachute in"....

Clearly you dont know what you are talking about from those statements alone. Initial SEAL training takes longer than 12 months. Another 18 months for pre-deployment training. BUDS takes over 6 months itself to complete. After completing BUDS if you dont quit, you have options of other schools to attend. Sniper School for example. Either way another School will will consist of 6 more months of training. And you have to be under ther age of 28.
 
Sure SAS stands for Special Air Service. And SEAL stands for Sea, Air and Land. A Navy Seal would also parachute in just as an SAS operative would. . But SAS operatives are recruited also from veterans from the Marines and Army. They are more highly trained than an SAS.
 
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bob the brit    Required reading for all new posters (and some old)   10/16/2009 4:25:25 PM

"The British SAS, man for man, is better. SEALs train for about 6 weeks or so, the SAS trains for over a year"..."SAS would have to parachute in"....



Clearly you dont know what you are talking about from those statements alone. Initial SEAL training takes longer than 12 months. Another 18 months for pre-deployment training. BUDS takes over 6 months itself to complete. After completing BUDS if you dont quit, you have options of other schools to attend. Sniper School for example. Either way another School will will consist of 6 more months of training. And you have to be under ther age of 28.

 

Sure SAS stands for Special Air Service. And SEAL stands for Sea, Air and Land. A Navy Seal would also parachute in just as an SAS operative would. . But SAS operatives are recruited also from veterans from the Marines and Army. They are more highly trained than an SAS.


Right, to begin with... S.E.A.L. - the sentence you quote was a written a long long time ago by someone who has come a long way since (and when he does post, is quite an appreciated member of the board). he understands that what he wrote was silly and has since seen the proverbial light as it were.
now to the nitty gritty... while all the old socks here understand that this thread and it's inherent purpose will never die, let's at least try to straighten the record a bit. so here's my problem... arguing one unit is better because its selection process/initial training is longer. aside from the whole "zulu alpha special air land water space time commando unit vs. 1000th Jupiter mega ninja rangers" i've never understood the length of training argument. training doesn't end when selection ends. once the candidates have been chosen, they embark upon a long career of nothing but constant training. so regardless of whether SEALs selection is longer/shorter than blades/shakys/whoever, all operatives undergo extensive training for the remainder of their SF career. to the SP vets here, i know its all been said before, but it doesn't hurt to put it up for any freshers to read.
 
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gf0012-aust       10/16/2009 8:04:57 PM
 once more with feeling... foxtrot foxtrot sierra
 
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Old Grunt    Careful Bob...   10/19/2009 8:51:32 AM
"zulu alpha special air land water space time commando unit vs. 1000th Jupiter mega ninja rangers"
Now Bob, using quotes to make it seem that these are fictitious units just isn't going to work!
Those of us who have "been around", or "took the vacations", or "walked the plank", or "attended the dance", or "got in the game" and such fully understand what quotes really mean!  I certainly hope that you haven't compromised any of their missions or their recruiting efforts with this "carless talk"! 
 
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Bond500    SEALs   10/27/2009 1:15:36 PM
Well YouGotYourAssKicked. I am also in NJROTC, and i enjoy it and that is the main reason i have decided to join the Navy and have in fact already joined the Delayed Entry Program in the Navy and my current ship off date is August 19th 2010. I do plan for it to change because today, October 27, 2009 I take my Navy SEALs Physical Screening Test. I have done many practice tests this past month and am very well prepared. So i suggest to you YGYAK(accronym for your name) you do better that my current times:
500 yard swim : allowed time 12:30, my time is 9:15
Push-ups: minimum is 42 in 2 minutes, mine was 76 last practice test
Sit-ups: minimum is 50 in 2 minutes, mine was 112 last practice test
Pull-ups: minimum is 6, palms facing out i believe, no time limit: mine is 12 last practice test
1.5 mile run: minimum is 11 minutes: my time was 9:46 last practice test
 
and yes i did do all of that at once with the allowed time breaks included. My personal opinon is that there is to much time in some of the breaks
 
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Bond500    SEALs   10/27/2009 1:15:41 PM
Well YouGotYourAssKicked. I am also in NJROTC, and i enjoy it and that is the main reason i have decided to join the Navy and have in fact already joined the Delayed Entry Program in the Navy and my current ship off date is August 19th 2010. I do plan for it to change because today, October 27, 2009 I take my Navy SEALs Physical Screening Test. I have done many practice tests this past month and am very well prepared. So i suggest to you YGYAK(accronym for your name) you do better that my current times:
500 yard swim : allowed time 12:30, my time is 9:15
Push-ups: minimum is 42 in 2 minutes, mine was 76 last practice test
Sit-ups: minimum is 50 in 2 minutes, mine was 112 last practice test
Pull-ups: minimum is 6, palms facing out i believe, no time limit: mine is 12 last practice test
1.5 mile run: minimum is 11 minutes: my time was 9:46 last practice test
 
and yes i did do all of that at once with the allowed time breaks included. My personal opinon is that there is to much time in some of the breaks
 
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prowe89       11/28/2009 10:39:48 PM
Are you serious GOP??!!!!SEAL's train for 6weeks, hahahaha dumbass, SEAL training is the longest and hardest of any special force ask anyone in any branch!!I joined the Navy 3/30/09 as an MA(militarypolice) and started to train with my Spec Ops/SEAL recuiter so I'd be ready when was able to transfer to SEAL's. Well one of the guys that was helping train me was a  retired SEAL. So I asked him what I would go through and where? he emailed me this list
2 - 3 weeks Indoctrination Course at Naval Amphibious Base Coronado 
24 weeks of BUD/S training at the Naval Special Warfare Center, Naval Amphibious Base Coronado 
15 weeks SEAL Qualification Training
 4-6 weeks Cold Weather Survival Training at Kodiak, Alaska
2 weeks level C SERE School[citation needed]
3 week Basic Airborne Static-line jump school at Ft. Benning, GA 
3 weeks HALO parachute training at the Military Free-Fall Training Center, MCAS Yuma, AZ.
18 months SEAL Platoon Training
 
SEAL's are the Elite of the Elite they roll in 4 man groups compared to the 50 man SAS team, If some really big shit is going down they will bump it up to 36 but thats the most and it never comes to that. Keep your comments to yourself, you dont know shit!!!
 
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gf0012-aust       11/28/2009 10:58:58 PM
SEAL's are the Elite of the Elite they roll in 4 man groups compared to the 50 man SAS team, If some really big shit is going down they will bump it up to 36 but thats the most and it never comes to that. Keep your comments to yourself, you dont know shit!!!

Guess who doesn't know schitt and get their info on special forces from the internet?  

 
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Gunsnroses1350       12/2/2009 2:14:21 PM

The British SAS, man for man, is better. SEALs train for about 6 weeks or so, the SAS trains for over a year, so as far as who is better trained, it is obvious that it is the SAS.
US Navy Seals Train for up to two years. Navy Seals are required to complete jump school, BUDS Phase 1, 2 and 3, a pre-indoctrination program, indoctrination program and SEAL qualification training. Only 33% of recruits make it through SEAL training. 85% of recruits make it through SAS training. The only other unit in the world that goes through similar training as the SEALs are the USMC Recon Marines, another group of the hardest men in the world. A regular jump for a Navy Seal is to be dropped at 25,000 feet, the same height as the SAS jumps. These are called HALO jumps (High Altitude Low Opening) The SAS is a group of Special Forces Parachutists. Yes they are some of the best, but Navy SEALs are by far much tougher and harder. The SEALs have the service record to prove their superiority. SEALs use the most advanced technology, go through the toughest training in the world and are required to be highly intelligent. SEAL marksman are the cream of the crop of snipers, but don't get me wrong every SEAL is a dead shot. SAS units insert into battle only through parachute or by ground. SEALs can insert through freezing oceans by their own power, small subs, parachute, ground and boat. Navy SEALs clearly can do everything the SAS can do and much more.  Put up to any task Navy SEALs will complete the operation with precision and deadly swiftness. A SEAL will never leave a wounded comrade or a dead one. A SEAL will fight to protect the body until he dies or is relieved and extracted with the body. The US SOCOM produces some of the best Special Forces units in the world. (I do realize Recon Marines are not SOCOM.)
 
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gf0012-aust       12/2/2009 2:20:46 PM
The SAS is a group of Special Forces Parachutists.
CREF prev. Guess who else doesn't know schitt and get their info on special forces from the internet?  There's nothing wrong with not knowing, but there are a whole pile of reasons why pretending to know does some self harm. 

 
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