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Subject: An apology to Braddock
Old Grunt    1/20/2006 3:09:04 PM
I never thought that it would happen but it has. I guess you really do have influence with the Department of Defense, or at least the Department of the Army. Just a few weeks ago you were lamenting that the oportunity for you to be a part of the Special Forces community was just not available and how you would jump at the chance if it became possible. I guess some of your influential friends here at the Pentagon heard you because just a few days later the Army raised the age limit for enlistment to 40 in order to accomodate your wish! You are now eligible to enlist as an 18X!! Man, you must be beside yourself with joy! When do you plan on going down to the recruiting station? I mean, you have the required GT score, experience and skills right? And with all the mentoring that you've gotten from "Green Berets" passing the screening tests should be a breeze for you! After all, the best way to influence the "Green Beret" community is to get assigned to USASOC headquarters and they only pull their staff from the operational community which, of course, you already knew. From there you can move to USSOCOM headquarters and have direct influence across the services. A man of your ability should be able to get assigned to the Pentagon staff after only three or four years of operational time. I wouldn't be surprised if you have already been down to the station! I mean, after all, you have assured us all time and again that you are a man of integrity and that you don't lie. And I know that you wouldn't be so superficial, selfish, and petty as to put the well being of yourself and your family above the welfare of the Nation who so desperately needs you. I would expect a lesser man to try and give some lame excuse for why he wasn't going to take advantage of the fantastic opportunity that he had been given, but not you!! I am so excited for you that you have finally been given your chance to show the world what you are really made of! Please keep us informed of your progress, I'm sure the other posters on this board will join me in congratulating you on receiving which you have so many times stated you wished you could get!
 
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shek    RE:An apology to Braddock - HS   1/23/2006 1:22:12 PM
I am surprised at your disdain for nuclear proliferation discussions, as Iraq clearly plays a central role in the future rate of proliferation in the Middle East. I never stated a disdain, just a misuse by you of trying to "correlate" all of your "algorithms" to include some proliferation "variances" for "facultive" use. Your "ascertainment" skills are in atrophy. Linking Iraq to Iran via proliferation demonstrates some strategic significance to our efforts in Iraq; however, stating that Iraq is important because of Iran doesn't provide you any insight into defeating the Iraqi insurgency - it only highlights the importance of doing it sooner rather than later.
 
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BraddockCaesar    RE:Please Tell Me You are Joking   1/23/2006 1:44:31 PM
I never stated a disdain, just a misuse by you of trying to "correlate" all of your "algorithms" to include some proliferation "variances" for "facultive" use. Your "ascertainment" skills are in atrophy. *I think not. If they were, I would be the first to admit it. It’s not enough to say something is wrong. It is on you to disprove any correlations you disagree with. Linking Iraq to Iran via proliferation demonstrates some strategic significance to our efforts in Iraq; however, stating that Iraq is important because of Iran doesn't provide you any insight into defeating the Iraqi insurgency - it only highlights the importance of doing it sooner rather than later. *Please tell me you are joking. This response makes no sense at all. You are suggesting that a potential force projection factor that will be available to Iran in regards to an adjacent Shiite controlled government, gives no insight as to how this threat can be neutralized. Also, the multi regional economic effects and casualty projection implications that will be facilitated by any cooperative initiatives between Iran and Iraq, will accelerate Iran’s pursuit of a nuclear weapons capability. This scenario would force us into making some tough decisions in a relatively short timeframe. These factors suggest that we should stay the course in Iraq while formulating a plan that will allow us to decisively defeat the insurgency in Iraq with or without the support of the new government we liberated from oppression, as any failure to cooperate on their part clearly defines their intentions concerning their relationship with Iran.
 
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shek    RE:Please Tell Me You are Joking   1/23/2006 2:35:54 PM
*Please tell me you are joking. This response makes no sense at all. You are suggesting that a potential force projection factor that will be available to Iran in regards to an adjacent Shiite controlled government, gives no insight as to how this threat can be neutralized. NEWSFLASH! The UIA doesn't hold a majority in the "permanent" government. They will wield a lot of power if the expected Shia-Kurd coalition is formed. However, you seem to ignore the Kurdish interests in the matter and the power that they will hold over Iranian meddling in internal Iraqi affairs. Also, the multi regional economic effects and casualty projection implications that will be facilitated by any cooperative initiatives between Iran and Iraq, will accelerate Iran’s pursuit of a nuclear weapons capability. This scenario would force us into making some tough decisions in a relatively short timeframe. These factors suggest that we should stay the course in Iraq while formulating a plan that will allow us to decisively defeat the insurgency in Iraq with or without the support of the new government we liberated from oppression, as any failure to cooperate on their part clearly defines their intentions concerning their relationship with Iran. Outside of Darth Sadr, can you point to any Shia forces that are anti-US? While Sadr has deftly maneuvered his way into some semblance of political power, he is still not in the mainstream of Shia Iraq. So, once again, you expose your lack of depth of knowledge on Iraq, and fail to demonstrate how talking about Iran's nuclear aspirations assists our COIN strategy in Iraq, except to highlight that defeating the insurgency in Iraq sooner than later is better. At least your consistent - when faced with an argument, you avoid it and/or argue something completely different. Whether that stems from a deliberate duck or just a lack of reading comprehension is another question . . .
 
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GOP    RE:An apology to Braddock - HS   1/23/2006 3:01:25 PM
>>-He wants SOF to lead IED sweeps. -He wants all buildings to be cleared bottom-up and top-down at the same time. -He thinks S-2s can provide exact building characteristics prior to raids to determine the SDZs for ricochets.<< Wow, for such an "Expert" on "Green Berets", those certainly are some crazy tactical ideas, to say the least. I have seen enough of this crap. This guy is full of pure crap, his ideas are crap, his posts are crap, and all of his threads are crap. Godd@mn, he has hijacked this board and filled it with crap. Braddock, please, please go to SFAS. The instructors will kick your a** before you got out of there. Well, they would either torture you or run from you (so they wouldn't have to hear about "Ascertainment levels" and your crappy tactical and strategic ideas that would never work in real life combat, which you have never seen). This board used to be a professional and informative place for people like me to come and ask the experts questions and have interesting discussions while I have time. Now it has turned into a sh*t throwing contest between the >Real< experts and you, Braddock. So, in summary, please go to SFAS and if you pass and make it to the Q course and small unit tactics, please try to talk your instructor into letting your team clear a building bottom-up and you can go top-down. You will then realize the hard way (hopefully you will play with Simunitions, if you go live fire you are in trouble) about your tactical ineptitude. Thanks for allowing me to rant
 
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BraddockCaesar    RE:Please Tell Me You are Joking   1/23/2006 3:03:09 PM
*Please tell me you are joking. This response makes no sense at all. You are suggesting that a potential force projection factor that will be available to Iran in regards to an adjacent Shiite controlled government, gives no insight as to how this threat can be neutralized. NEWSFLASH! The UIA doesn't hold a majority in the "permanent" government. They will wield a lot of power if the expected Shia-Kurd coalition is formed. However, you seem to ignore the Kurdish interests in the matter and the power that they will hold over Iranian meddling in internal Iraqi affairs. *Once again, your understanding of the strategic situation leaves much to be desired. The Shiites hold a majority(Iran influenced Shiite majority) and minority(secular Shiite influenced)bloc of parliament seats. To suggest that the Kurds are capable of neutralizing any interaction and strategic continuity between Iran and the divergent Shiite voting blocs is erroneous at the least and a pipe dream in any serious entertainment of such a notion. The Kurds have only the power of our support to their role in a democratic Iraq that heavily depends on our presence in country over the short and long term(10 years). Also, the multi regional economic effects and casualty projection implications that will be facilitated by any cooperative initiatives between Iran and Iraq, will accelerate Iran’s pursuit of a nuclear weapons capability. This scenario would force us into making some tough decisions in a relatively short timeframe. These factors suggest that we should stay the course in Iraq while formulating a plan that will allow us to decisively defeat the insurgency in Iraq with or without the support of the new government we liberated from oppression, as any failure to cooperate on their part clearly defines their intentions concerning their relationship with Iran. Outside of Darth Sadr, can you point to any Shia forces that are anti-US? While Sadr has deftly maneuvered his way into some semblance of political power, he is still not in the mainstream of Shia Iraq. *Al Sadr has accomplished all that he needs. He has some semblance of political clout that will be dramatically increased upon any future political conflict between the Shiite, Sunni and Kurdish voting blocs. These factors clearly detail why he must be disarmed. To allow him to remain armed, is similar to allowing Hezbollah to remain armed. His group will only get stronger as the Shiite base expands its grip on the future course of Iraq. Another reason that we should follow the lead of Secretary of State Rice in leaving our options open in regards to staying in Iraq for a period of up to 10 year. So, once again, you expose your lack of depth of knowledge on Iraq, and fail to demonstrate how talking about Iran's nuclear aspirations assists our COIN strategy in Iraq, except to highlight that defeating the insurgency in Iraq sooner than later is better. *You need to just print the essays and study them meticulously before responding sir.
 
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Horsesoldier    RE:Please Tell Me You are Joking   1/23/2006 3:06:07 PM
>>*Please tell me you are joking.<< Perhaps instead you could tell everyone else on this board that *you* are joking? Really. This paragraph is about the silliest piece of "analysis" I've seen by someone whose military experience is alleged to go beyond being the best Ghost Recon player in their 7th grade class. >>This response makes no sense at all. You are suggesting that a potential force projection factor that will be available to Iran in regards to an adjacent Shiite controlled government, gives no insight as to how this threat can be neutralized. Also, the multi regional economic effects and casualty projection implications that will be facilitated by any cooperative initiatives between Iran and Iraq, will accelerate Iran’s pursuit of a nuclear weapons capability. This scenario would force us into making some tough decisions in a relatively short timeframe. These factors suggest that we should stay the course in Iraq while formulating a plan that will allow us to decisively defeat the insurgency in Iraq with or without the support of the new government we liberated from oppression, as any failure to cooperate on their part clearly defines their intentions concerning their relationship with Iran.<< Just out of curiousity, oh genius of geniuses, what "logic" do you bring to the table supporting your ascertainment that a unwillingness to fight the (largely Sunni) insurgency would be an indicator that a pro-Iranian Shiite government would be tilting *towards* Shiite Iran?
 
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Horsesoldier    RE:An apology to Braddock - HS   1/23/2006 3:16:05 PM
>>So, in summary, please go to SFAS and if you pass and make it to the Q course and small unit tactics, please try to talk your instructor into letting your team clear a building bottom-up and you can go top-down. You will then realize the hard way (hopefully you will play with Simunitions, if you go live fire you are in trouble) about your tactical ineptitude.<< If by some miracle this does come to pass, I do hope I'm standing there when you finally pull a SFAUC rotation and start lecturing the urban movement cadre on top-bottom simultaneous clearing TTPs based on your superior ascertainment skills and comprehension of the stratego-tactical ramifications of MOUT operations or whatever . . .
 
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BraddockCaesar    RE:Please Tell Me You are Joking   1/23/2006 3:16:39 PM
The instructors will kick your a** before you got out of there. Well, they would either torture you or run from you (so they wouldn't have to hear about "Ascertainment levels" and your crappy tactical and strategic ideas that would never work in real life combat, which you have never seen). *Sorry to disappoint you, but I get along extremely well with GB instructors. They are not as emotional as some people on this site. This board used to be a professional and informative place for people like me to come and ask the experts questions and have interesting discussions while I have time. Now it has turned into a sh*t throwing contest between the >Real< experts and you, Braddock. *The experts consider me an expert regardless of the fact that I disagree with the experts on this site. You are clearly out of the loop. Shek is not an expert. Let's be clear about that. In fact, he has done very little to help the troops who have taken his place in the Iraq rotation. So, in summary, please go to SFAS and if you pass and make it to the Q course and small unit tactics, please try to talk your instructor into letting your team clear a building bottom-up and you can go top-down. You will then realize the hard way (hopefully you will play with Simunitions, if you go live fire you are in trouble) about your tactical ineptitude. *Sorry kid. I'm the best and I plan on maintaing that status.
 
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BraddockCaesar    RE:An apology to Braddock - HS   1/23/2006 3:19:45 PM
"If by some miracle this does come to pass, I do hope I'm standing there when you finally pull a SFAUC rotation and start lecturing the urban movement cadre on top-bottom simultaneous clearing TTPs based on your superior ascertainment skills and comprehension of the stratego-tactical ramifications of MOUT operations or whatever " Horse Soldier Come on now. You know that type of thing is not for everyone. Only the D types and those who realize that they must compete at this competency level in order to revolutionize the conventional set.
 
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Horsesoldier    RE:Please Tell Me You are Joking   1/23/2006 3:27:34 PM
>>*Sorry to disappoint you, but I get along extremely well with GB instructors. They are not as emotional as some people on this site.<< Um, yeah . . . spend twenty minutes in my office and let me know how well either of those particular illusions hold up . . . >>*The experts consider me an expert regardless of the fact that I disagree with the experts on this site. You are clearly out of the loop. Shek is not an expert. Let's be clear about that. In fact, he has done very little to help the troops who have taken his place in the Iraq rotation. << Um, yeah -- this particular self-delusion would not last five minutes in my office, before some guy with SFARTETC or Level 1 SOTIC and ample team time on his resume had you reduced to literal tears. >>*Sorry kid. I'm the best and I plan on maintaing that status.<< And this little bit of humor would, I suspect, last about 120 seconds.
 
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