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Subject: An apology to Braddock
Old Grunt    1/20/2006 3:09:04 PM
I never thought that it would happen but it has. I guess you really do have influence with the Department of Defense, or at least the Department of the Army. Just a few weeks ago you were lamenting that the oportunity for you to be a part of the Special Forces community was just not available and how you would jump at the chance if it became possible. I guess some of your influential friends here at the Pentagon heard you because just a few days later the Army raised the age limit for enlistment to 40 in order to accomodate your wish! You are now eligible to enlist as an 18X!! Man, you must be beside yourself with joy! When do you plan on going down to the recruiting station? I mean, you have the required GT score, experience and skills right? And with all the mentoring that you've gotten from "Green Berets" passing the screening tests should be a breeze for you! After all, the best way to influence the "Green Beret" community is to get assigned to USASOC headquarters and they only pull their staff from the operational community which, of course, you already knew. From there you can move to USSOCOM headquarters and have direct influence across the services. A man of your ability should be able to get assigned to the Pentagon staff after only three or four years of operational time. I wouldn't be surprised if you have already been down to the station! I mean, after all, you have assured us all time and again that you are a man of integrity and that you don't lie. And I know that you wouldn't be so superficial, selfish, and petty as to put the well being of yourself and your family above the welfare of the Nation who so desperately needs you. I would expect a lesser man to try and give some lame excuse for why he wasn't going to take advantage of the fantastic opportunity that he had been given, but not you!! I am so excited for you that you have finally been given your chance to show the world what you are really made of! Please keep us informed of your progress, I'm sure the other posters on this board will join me in congratulating you on receiving which you have so many times stated you wished you could get!
 
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mough    RE:Off topic   2/8/2006 12:16:32 PM
I am doing the rucking for several reasons... 1) I am not positive I want to be a SEAL (USMC grunt then Force Recon maybe) 2) I am trying to strengthen my legs more 3) I am supposed to go on a hiking trip soon, and I want to be in good enough shape to enjoy it instead of it being a challenge. I had no idea that a person could carry that much for such a long distance (we are talking a possible 145lbs, which is about 70% of my bodyweight). How far are you expected to carry that kind of weight? As far as SEALs doing any rucking, I do know that they have one 20 miler at BUD/S with 60lbs (I believe) during Third Phase. Also, if I decided to go be a SEAL, got into BUD/S, and made it through BUD/S...then I would have SQT which has alot of land nav in it.<< ok, I'll take this point by point, 1. if you have to tab, then take it easy, your young and you hav not finished your physical development, you don't want to scupper your chances by blwing your knees out, ok, just don't go over board on the training 2.yes, SOF's carry every thing, you carry what you pack, in GW1, the SAS non mobility team's, ie, B2Z, were up past the 180Lbs level, for alomost 25 milies, now even in SOF's that was condsidered alot of weight,what I gave you was a big group of kit to carry, alot of the time you won't, but on occasion you will have to ruck 50-80% of your body weight in gear for 10-20Km's at a time at a good pace, that is why, I can't reinforce enough you taking care of your knee's, you'll need them 3>, the SEAL's, 20 miler,with 60Lbs, in the pack, that does not include weapon or personell kit, you have to be carefull with thing's like that, because your weapon stay's with you plus your gear, it doesn't get counted , so you get the misleading idea, it's "just" 60Lbs, on a forced ruck march, with everything thrown on, your pulling 100Lbs+,
 
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Ehran    RE:Off topic   2/8/2006 4:48:21 PM
it's amazing what the army mandates you shlep about. i remember reading the canadian snipers during operation anaconda in 'stan decided to forgo body armour to bring the weight down. they also had to have two guys lift the pack into place as it was too heavy and ill balanced to let a person stand up with it. this at 8 or 9000 feet up.
 
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lrsrng    RE:Off topic   2/8/2006 6:54:40 PM
GOP my wife is pentacostal and a lot of folks at her church home school. For Rucking you are going to want to be able to cover 15-18 miles at a 8 min pace it is pretty much a run.That is why I suggested sprinting intervals in your rucking it will help build physical and mental endurance.Your weight depends on your frame you just do not want to use boot camp etc to get to the weight you need to be at.Dieting changes your physiolgy and causes physical and mental stresses that are better dealt with before hand if you want to maximise your chance of success.This is why I recommended plenty of streching getting through requires some luck of not getting injured but a lot of injuries can be avoided through proper conditioning. Show up physically ready so it does not become an additional mental stress because this is the demon your going to have to beat to succceed.
 
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lrsrng    RE:Off topic   2/8/2006 7:01:33 PM
PS 18 minute pace Reveiwed it after posting it any way it will stiil smoke you at 18.also as far as running you are going to want to be run 5 miles at least a 8 min pace.
 
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GOP    RE:Off topic   2/9/2006 8:42:15 PM
Sorry guys, another fitness questions. You may or may not know that I am on a new PT program that consists of Pushups, Chinups, Situps, Lunges, Squats, Flutter Kicks, Running, Rucking (when my Pack comes in), and Biking. The question is, if my goal is to be SOF, are their any 'special' or lesser known exercises I should be doing (other than swimming, which I don't have a pool)? For example, if I can get 100 pushups, 20 chinups, 100 situps, 100 lunges, 150 bw squats, 100 4-count flutter kicks; run 10 miles in 80 minutes; and ruck 15 miles in 18 minutes with 45lbs+, will I be alright to join USASOC if I have the right attitude? I have seen alot of different workouts which consist of burpees, bear crawls, hand stand pushups, etc...and I am wondering if what I am doing is not enough.
 
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GOP    RE:Off topic   2/9/2006 8:48:12 PM
By the way, I don't want to give any false impressions. I certainly can't achieve those numbers...For example, I can only get 45 pushups in 2 minutes.
 
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mough    RE:Off topic   2/10/2006 4:16:52 AM
I don't mean to be harsh GOP, but a 10 miler in 80 Min is pretty slow. you should be aiming to shave atleast 10 min off of that, and swiming is essential, you'll need to be confident strong and able, there's no point going to BUD's or the FR pipeline if you are not a good swimmer, but that is something you can work on, if you go the FR route, because you'll learn in the Corp or are willing to spend a little time in the Navy before BUD's you can get the hang of swimming well,if theres a pool near where you live, that would be even better,don't try ocean swimming with out learning in a pool, it can be tricky ,, the 100 situp's, 100 flutter kick's are a good start, but you have to be able to do them untill the DS tell's you stop, there is no point in training to do 100 of something and then being told you have to do 150!, you train to failure,untill you can't physically do any more.....then you do another one ;), but you've hit the nail on the head with this comment "if I have the right attitude?", you either have it or you don't, many a fine tri athelete or marathon runner have tried BUD's, ect, only to be washed out, while you see slightly over weight or guy's you'd never expect to do it, excell, because they want it, so bad, they'd literally die to make it in, you have to ask, your self, if your sitting on a beach at 3AM up to your neck in ice cold water being shouted at just to get in, is this what I want to do, Day in Day out?
 
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mough    RE:Off topic   2/10/2006 4:21:12 AM
oh.....I should have read this post as well before replying....all I can say is work on it, you have time, to get your self fighting fit, I would if I were you, just drop the power lifting regime all together, it will get you very little in the SO World, there are very few powerlifter CCT's or SEAL's, but you have an advantage, you I assume have a disciplined workout regime due to the PL, use that drive refocus it on getting where you want to go
 
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Old Grunt    RE:Progress report?   2/10/2006 9:44:53 AM
Young Don, How's your SF enlistment process going? It's been three weeks and you haven't shipped yet. That can only be the result of either A) you were rejected for enlistment, or B) you haven't contacted the recruiting office yet. Are we to "ascertain" at this point that you are "all hat and not cattle"? Take to heart the words of Teddy Roosevelt: "...the man who really counts in the world is the doer, not the mere critic-the man who actually does the work, even if roughly and imperfectly, not the man who only talks or writes about how it ought to be done."
 
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YoungDon    RE:Progress report?   2/10/2006 11:20:03 AM
Old Grunt I was contacted yesterday and I am waiting on the recruiter to call me back with an interview date.
 
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