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Subject: The Radicalization Of Turkey
SYSOP    12/18/2014 4:56:38 AM
 
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robbief1       12/18/2014 8:25:24 AM

Erdogan is now sheltering Hamas "rogue" cells and Qaradawi the ethnic cleanser,


He has regular ADHD-like public rants antagonising Egypt, publicly calling for Assad downfall, castigating Israel.


Some (many?) Turkish govt. factions appear to be supporting IS, as they think they can control them.


Good luck with guarding the tomb of the founder of the Ottoman Empire http://tinyurl.com/pskwujc


It's all going to end in tears, Tayyip.


He thinks he's cool, but these ultra-orthodox Islamists will turn on him just like Muslim Brotherhood turned on Sadat, Al Qaeda turned on house of Saud, Hamas turned on Assad etc. etc.


It's called blowback. You play with fire, eventually it burns you.


Zero problems with neighbours??


He can't even keep his own house in order :-


- Gezi Park,


- That appalling mining tragedy, where his chief of staff beat up a protester (!)


- Gulenists


- The stench of corruption that surrounds him,


- Arrests of journalists, judges, police officers


- Twitter censorship.


There's only so long he can keep on blaming Israel and diverting attention from his own arrogance and racism, before his people turn on him. He's a bit like Putin, just 6-12 months behind - paranoia, trying to turn the clock back, foreign adventurism, creating lots of enemies.

 
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Nate Dog    Blaming Israel   12/18/2014 4:56:47 PM
Is a national pastime in that part of the world.

Turkey's current government is nothing short of insane.
I guess its a case of re-inventing the wheel, these days its pretty easy to see what kind of government and which practisces work.
So, clearly, good democracy leads to happy populace, successful economy. 
Despotism leads to perennial war.
Apart from which, for business models on what happens to countries that let in Islamic terrorists to operate from within their territory so long as they play nice locally please see:
Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt under Morsi. Theres more that I'm not thinking of now but you get the picture. It works fine right up till it doesn't work.
Its the most short sighted policy i've ever seen. Erdogan is either a complete madman, mostly retarded or simply a right cunt that cares nothing for the people he was idiotically elected (and re-elected, and re-elected) to lead.
Lets put a time line on this, 10 years from now, not longer than 15, or much much sooner if moderates re-assert control over Turkey and find themselves with an entrenched financed Terrorist population we're going to see the huge strife in Turkey that we've seen in every other example sighted.
What a goddamn disaster. How insanely stupid. 
 
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Spiky    Neighbors   12/18/2014 11:08:25 PM
The ONLY neighbor surrounding Israel who is guaranteed to not attack or harm the Israelites is the non-Muslim Mediterranean sea.
 
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ker       12/22/2014 12:32:53 AM
Someone could do a historical study on the relation of states and terrorist fronts arguing that the reoccurring pattern parallels the progressive nature of addition. At first it's fun and sexy. Then you think it gives you improved abilities and solves problems. Then you need to keep doing it to feel normal. Then you can't feel normal any more but your desperate to protect your habit because you fear the effects of stopping. You can reach a point that you can not survive withdrawal. "I have this feeling my luck is none to good. This sword here at my side don't act the way it should. Keeps calling me it's master but I feel like I'm it's slave. Calling me faster and faster to an early early grave...." Blue Oster Cult, Black Blade
 
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